if it wasnt for the titan weapon ilvl increases i would have very little motivation to do titan outside of the relic, ive used titan weapons to hold me over on 3 different jobs until i got them relic'd. i regularly join titan hm groups in the party finder purely for the chance at the weapons, and im sure the groups im joining dont mind having an experienced i87 sch who can solo heal it on their team. my point is, good luck finding experienced players for titan if everyone stopped doing it once they got their relic