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    Why do you think no one complains about bind, blind, or even STUN locked, because none of them has a 30sec+ duration.

    I hear complaints all the time on these. There is a reason I buff for stun resist rather than sleep and there is absolutely no reason anyone should have a 30 sec duration after a couple wins- it is called purify. Wait, let me guess- too busy acquiring dps boosts than purify so when you do get slept and it is not removed by your healer you can whine about the 30 sec cc and point out the high dps you had prior to the sleep at the end of the losing match as a sign you are a good player? Come on, be a team player and get purify- never will there be a 30 sec CC.
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    No wonder you don't mind... Just looked at the class you play... BLM... lol figures..
    I stand the same chance as you at being slept by a blm or whm AND the CC impacts me the same as you. I take that back- I stand a greater chance at being slept than you. I am expected to sleep the healer (not save my a$$ with the CC), I am usually top priority (alongside heals) for enemy sleep, and I usually have 3 opposing players after me before our healer. Stop whining about a 30 sec CC and get purify. If you want my sleep, trade several instant attacks that I can use while moving with the ability to bind and silence and you can have my sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realistic1 View Post
    I stand the same chance as you at being slept by a blm or whm AND the CC impacts me the same as you. I take that back- I stand a greater chance at being slept than you. I am expected to sleep the healer (not save my a$$ with the CC), I am usually top priority (alongside heals) for enemy sleep, and I usually have 3 opposing players after me before our healer. Stop whining about a 30 sec CC and get purify. If you want my sleep, trade several instant attacks that I can use while moving with the ability to bind and silence and you can have my sleep.
    Did you have to reply to yourself like 10 times? there's a edit button for you to add more words to your own reply. I can tell you are obviously trolling pretty hard, everyone knows Purify does not save you from multi class sleeps. Diminishing returns does nothing, did you not read the part I said Premade 3-4 man? They are on team speak etc and can coordinate who to sleep and who to focus on. You are still talking about Pug parties or pre-made of 2, on top of that you're a blm yourself and even admitted to losing to the same comps.

    Anyone that is arguing and saying sleep is OP'ed already has Purify, we are arguing that you still can not counter Sleep's duration with Purify being used 1 time and then a CD of over 1.30mins or 3mins for most. And yes killing one person in pvp without getting healed takes 2-10 secs, time it. Why do you think people will target a Blm over a BRD/MNK/DRG/PLD/WAR/SMN ? Because the BLM HAS AOE SLEEP. You even admitted you are always being focused on, and that's the sole reason. You can keep trying to deny it all you want, anyone that has played any pvp game will agree a 30sec sleep timer, let alone AOE and can be re-casted over is retarded.
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    Did you have to reply to yourself like 10 times?there's a edit button for you to add more words to your own reply.
    To purposely get around the forum word limitation? No, I choose to abide by the forum restrictions which allow 1000 characters per post. Each of my posts address a specific quote/statement and although I do not like the 1000 character limit per post, I will abide by the guidelines until they change the rules. As you are simply restating some of the same points that I previously presented valid argument against with no additional input, I will only address those comments that have not already been covered. (might take multiple posts/replies so please be patient)
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    everyone knows Purify does not save you from multi class sleeps.


    Purify cancels 1 sleep effect. Sleep is sleep regardless of class and share the same diminishings. If this is not correct, please point me to a credible resource showing otherwise. Purify is ONE of the handful of mitigation items I presented for sleep- ONE.

    did you not read the part I said Premade 3-4 man? They are on team speak etc and can coordinate who to sleep and who to focus on. You are still talking about Pug parties or pre-made of 2.


    It does not matter whether it is 2,3,4 man premade or total pug, we are discussing whether or not the CC sleep is OP not if it becomes OP when some groups organize and use it against weaker groups as this can be said about almost every good ability.
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    on top of that you're a blm yourself and even admitted to losing to the same comps

    Yes, I lose many a battle solo queue against 3 man premades- blm or no blm. I also do not like facing a 2 smn group but you do not hear me QQing about summoners or 3 man premades. Do you know why? I have an option of queing solo or making a premade and guess what, I have the option of adding a smn, blm or whm to that party just like you.
    Why do you think people will target a Blm over a BRD/MNK/DRG/PLD/WAR/SMN ? Because the BLM HAS AOE SLEEP.

    Do you think I am debating whether sleep is a good pvp CC? Of course we are targeted for our CC, we are also targeted first because we are MUCH easier and quicker to kill than a healer- one good reason for my squishy class to HAVE sleep.
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