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  1. #21
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    Georgevonfranken's Avatar
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    Candy Apple
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitski View Post
    Most of the best players don't do anything outside of their static or FC.

    I don't know the specifics of maximizing SMN dps, but the guy from my static is a beast.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1728587/
    Is he wearing myth pants and belt because of no luck with drops?
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  2. #22
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    Seobit's Avatar
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    Luna Clear
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    My dots consistently do over 20% more damage than what they parse for. Parsers are only able to tracks when and what dots are up (except for shadowflare), but are unable to track the damage they do. A SMN in ilvl 60 gear will show the same damage from dots as one in ilvl 90. Parsers are also incapable of knowing when dots crit, which is substantial.

    If you think you got a SMN beat just because your parser said so, think again. Geared SMN do quite a bit more than what is shown.
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  3. #23
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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Seobit View Post
    A SMN in ilvl 60 gear will show the same damage from dots as one in ilvl 90. Parsers are also incapable of knowing when dots crit, which is substantial.
    Ah, no.

    That's not quite how it works.
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  4. #24
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Couple pages here to answer the "Why did melee get buffed?" question going around. If Smn continues to be top dps I expect to see another big buff for drgs and a smaller one for Mnk.

    If bard had to much utility for their dps then Smn certainly does.
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  5. #25
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    T0rin's Avatar
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    Character
    Torin Escarpa
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    From what I've been able to gather, the parsers sample your reliable damage (Ruin, etc.) to determine what it can expect from a specific potency amount. Then it translates that to DoT potency, and applies it on a per second (or portion of a second) basis, throughout the course of the DoT duration, until it is refreshed/over-written or the mob dies.

    It is true that it does not factor in crit damage, but someone in i60 vs someone in i90 will get significantly more DoT damage 'credit' on the merit of the other abilities that the parser is sampling, doing more damage.

    And of course there are certain abilities that parsers do not track at all.
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  6. #26
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    Seobit's Avatar
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    Luna Clear
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Ah, no.

    That's not quite how it works.
    From the guy who writes FFXIV-APP:

    I take your level * X and get some damage base from that.
    That was a week or two ago though and I know he made a different formula that tries to guess your damage based on ruin damage, but when I tested it I got even worse numbers so I don't know if it got any better since. I did my testing by simply writing down the damage the game displayed and comparing it to the damage the parser displayed, and the numbers were a consistent 20% difference. Crits were never shown either.
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  7. #27
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    Aphrini's Avatar
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    Character
    Aphrini Vanadette
    World
    Exodus
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I think us weak SMN should just stfu and be told by our stick swinging overlords how life is as they are obviously our superiors

    *edit missed a word ^^v
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    Last edited by Aphrini; 12-21-2013 at 04:08 AM.

  8. #28
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aphrini View Post
    I think us weak SMN should just stfu and be told by our stick swinging overlords how life as they are obviously our superiors
    Quote for future use when people ask why melee get buffed.
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  9. #29
    Nothing can do better than SMNS or monks. Yet to see any drag doin 380 dps on dummy without any food or buff.

    Or just doin 330 dps + all alone on Caduceus without lb.
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  10. #30
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    Character
    Mitski Zahard
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Georgevonfranken View Post
    Is he wearing myth pants and belt because of no luck with drops?
    We've never seen the pants drop, so I'm not sure what he considers best in slot. Like I said, all I know is he does a lot of damage. We run MNK/BRD/BLM/SMN... if you believe what you read on the forums 3/4 of those classes were nerfed into oblivion this patch, but we pushed Twintania to phase 3 before the 4th conflag this week.
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