Post 2.1: A consistent way to level?

**Ranzan** · 12-21-2013 09:03 AM

Yea now my DPS class is struggling to get xp. ><
The queue times can be brutal and then when you do you hope the party goes well...
The changes are great for tanks and healers but for DPS well lets just say they nerfs the best (maybe) option for a dps to lvling.

**Shneibel** · 12-21-2013 09:29 AM

Just do DFR while lvl, the exp reward are not bad

**armandojc3** · 12-21-2013 09:52 AM

im starting to wish for a Level reset with some kind of reward, kinda like COD Prestige so i can re-level my dragoon through dungeons instead of all the fate grinding i did...

**Allyrion** · 12-21-2013 10:07 AM

I don't hate FATEs, but they never should have been scaled they were 2.0-2.1.
Enemies should never be blown up is milliseconds (and I'm being literal).

The fate scaling they did add is a decent step, but it obviously came with many flaws of its own.
Guild Wars 2 made invented these dynamic event type stuff, and their version scaled while it was going on.

I hope they find a sweet spot in making adjustments.
On the other hand, FATE xp was ridiculous. The content should not be trivialized, and it should not be easier to do fates that go through a dungeon.
That's where finding proper scaling will really help in balancing the two.

**Velox** · 12-21-2013 10:10 AM

FATEs were supposed to be SUPPLIMENTAL experience income, not the ONLY source. FATEs were SE's way of saying, "oh I see you running thru X to get to Y, look to your right you can grab some quick easy EXP and then be back on your way." The fact that people discovered that by zerg-rushing them, you could amount to the quickest exp in the game, it destroyed the system. FATEs require completely different mechanics than instances do. Because end-game consists of instanced party-play, leveling via FATEs did NOT equip these people with the proper knowledge of how to perform their class's role in an organized setting. This destructive spiral ultimately lead to the loathing we see today. It's not the system's fault. It's really the playerbase's fault for not exercising self-restraint. Just because someone hands you the easy way out doesn't mean it's the correct way.

The fact that people are STILL wanting FATEs to be "lol easy-mode leveling" proves that this playerbase was bottle-fed way longer than it should have been. 2.1 was the weaning you all needed. "B...but..but dungeons are harder and make me do work." Lol lrn2play bro.

If you're still seeing long queue times for the Duty Finder, I highly suspect it's either your server population or the time of day you are playing. I've noticed a 20 to 50% reduction on all my queue times since 2.1 launched, and yes, that includes DPS. I'm now popping instances in 15-20 minutes instead of the 45-60 minutes I saw in 2.0. Not, that's not ideal, but it's a hell of a lot better than before.

**Zaranghae** · 12-21-2013 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Velox

rant

So other than this piddling derail, can anyone share a reliable method?

**Insidious** · 12-21-2013 12:14 PM

I would care a whole lot less if I had leveled lancer before the patch as taking a break to level a dps to level another dps for your main dps makes dps go dps..dps?

What I have been doing is do a level or 2 of dungeon farming, then switch it up to fates if there are just enough people in the zone. As I got to different fates last night, I would just invite people so we could share the XP from killing the mobs. Eventually, I had a full fate party and people were looking, albeit not consistently. That died at right about 11 central time, so I am not expecting to see late night fates anymore like 2.0. I also really do attribute a lot of this to people trying out new content. Once they get enough of that, they might jump back in to fate grinding. If new content, for end gamers, was released and they had to level another class due to some requirement, fates should spike again.

**kristerrr86** · 12-21-2013 12:16 PM

I get that you only get bonus XP once, but the XP of dungeon mobs have also doubled.

My tips is make a tank friend and dungeon ques will be faster. Even without the bonus from roulette this should be viable

**Zaranghae** · 12-21-2013 12:27 PM

Hmm I'll try the following methods, thanks all for the input.

**Naberrie** · 12-31-2013 06:31 AM

I've found the best way is to do FATEs solo while queuing for dungeons. Yes, the initial roulette bonus is the big one, but even after that you get a lot more exp doing dungeons than FATEs for the comparable time spent, at least at low levels. I can plow through a dungeon in about 20 minutes and get 75K or so for a level 30ish job, and that's without the bonus. There aren't FATEs for that level that are going to give that kind of reward in that kind of time.

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