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    Nos Chiru
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    wow really? someone miss FATE party?
    thats the most selfish way to level in ffxiv, i always hated someone who teleport when the fate isnt even finished, especially boss fate..
    you should try 2 manning the boss while other people (including your party) just leave you after a few spell for another fate

    selfish fate party, really glad they changed dungeon exp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassius View Post
    I'm glad nobody does fate anymore. Maybe more players will know how to play their class now.
    People still don't know how to play their class in dungeons. And if you get somebody who refuses to listen all you can do is hope for the best and hope there isn't any wipes. Aside from that I've run into a few tank bots and those really ruin a run.
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    Aeron Grim
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    The only thing about this i find irrational is that dungeon exp has been increased significantly, but some people would rather sit in a circle and press 2 buttons.

    Good riddance, FATE.
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    I thought FATEs will come back too, but then I experienced the "new fate difficulty increase" and I know it'll make it extremely difficult if a certain fate doesn't have at least 24-48 people (Failed continuous boss fates at Aleport with 2-3 parties).

    As of now, it's impossible to find an efficient way to level, I've tried everything people have mentioned here and there are only three viable options which are pretty much done.
    1. Battleleves, but this eats into points, and this is still slower than FATE grinding
    2. Fate grinding itself is dead, and also due to the increasing difficulty, you spend a lot of time trying to kill one boss and earning the same reward. Most of the time it will fail so it's frustrating.
    3. Dungeon grinding, but only viable doing the duty roulette once-a-day.

    It's pretty much come down to do your once-a-day duty roulette and battleleves. Don't even try fate grinding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaranghae View Post
    <snip>

    It's pretty much come down to do your once-a-day duty roulette and battleleves. Don't even try fate grinding.
    Yea the scaling of fates really extends the fate itself. As I said before, if the fate is killed with X amount and you come back with less than a quarter of that amount? Don't even bother trying to solo it, you're get blown up. Even with a full party or 2, if it isn't the same amount as the previous kill, you may not be able to complete the fate. This also plays hell with the timed fates that include escorts or protection because those will inevitably fail as no one will be able to make it to them in time or protect them if they do.

    I just don't understand why some people have such a hate for them. It's another way to level and tends to be more social than dungeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    Just do DFR while lvl, the exp reward are not bad
    If you had read the majority of this thread, you would see people (mainly dps) are having issues with the roulette system. You do it once, get the bonus xp and then you're done...unless you run it on your 50 for tomes, then you don't get any bonus at all on a lower class/job you are leveling. Dungeons are the same thing as fates, after so many you may want to level another way. Also, if you get a member who refuses to listen and just does their thing your experience can be extended or include a good amount of wipes. Anyway, as I said before dungeons just feel slower to level. Until I see xp/hr from someone or figure it out myself I won't say that for sure, but it does feel that way.
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    Last edited by Insidious; 12-21-2013 at 09:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaranghae View Post
    As of now, it's impossible to find an efficient way to level, I've tried everything people have mentioned here and there are only three viable options which are pretty much done.

    It's pretty much come down to do your once-a-day duty roulette and battleleves. Don't even try fate grinding.
    Damn, you're going to have to play the game now... :< Sounds horrible. Worst part is you're paying 15 bucks a month for the privilege.

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    Anyway, as I said before dungeons just feel slower to level. Until I see xp/hr from someone or figure it out myself I won't say that for sure, but it does feel that way.
    Yeah, that was kind of the point. You think hitting 50 in a week and a half was normal?
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    Last edited by Krystalynn; 12-21-2013 at 09:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystalynn View Post
    Damn, you're going to have to play the game now... :< Sounds horrible. Worst part is you're paying 15 bucks a month for the privilege.



    Yeah, that was kind of the point. You think hitting 50 in a week and a half was normal?
    How exactly do I play the game? You mean do 1 dungeon a day, then go do something else? Battleleves right? Wait, there's only 3 every 12 hours, that won't do =/. I guess go on your main and try to get gear? Oh bummer, look at all these lockouts. What if my own definition of "fun" actually comprises of having a variety of end-game classes so I can do more of the actual end-game dungeons, which is probably 90% of what 2.1 is about? Shucks, but of course, I must be paying 15 bucks a month to AFK. Oh wait I can't even do that because there's an AFK kicker. Much fun. Very thoughtful. So FF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaranghae View Post
    How exactly do I play the game? You mean do 1 dungeon a day, then go do something else?
    I dunno, do two dungeons, maybe three? Enjoy a fate or two. Try a leve. Help out a friend with her quests. Everyone else seems to be doing just fine. It might take you another week or two to hit max. Holy crap, spoiled much? You're going to have to earn your variety of 'fun'. Your the type that would literally push a button to hit 50 if possible, and sorry, from a game design perspective you're the worst kind of player imaginable, and balancing around that kind of sentiment would -crush- the game for hundreds of thousands of people. You were spoiled by a broken system that should have never rewarded like it did in the first place, and you're going to have to deal with it and play the game like every other mmo has played, and enjoy its content at the pace you can set. If that means hitting 50 in a month on your freaking ~alt~, cry me a river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystalynn View Post
    snip.
    I wish they had a dislike button. You do realize that the game is centered around being level 50. If it takes longer to get to level 50, then yea some people might be a tad upset especially if they like/want to get multiple 50s. Getting to 50 should be trivial, especially after the first go round. You can continue to chain roulette after the first time, without the bonus of course. If you choose to queue up for any dungeon without using it, you are setting yourself up for 30-60 minute wait times as dps. So, in the mean time what are you going to do? Alright, let's spend levees on grinding levels when they are usually better used on gathering/crafting professions. They are also not finite, you WILL run out at some point. Once you do run out, that option is dry. Next, you can quest..oh wait, getting another class to 50 so there are almost none left. So, ok you can go do some fates....right no one is running them and with scaling running them solo is a waste of time (at the moment, that is subject to change). The problem now is you can't enjoy fates with the scaling and as a dps your only real option is to do fates. If you would be able to have a fate party and queue up for a dungeon, that would be optimal but that option just isn't present. Also, with roulette in certain level ranges you'll get thrown into the primals. First time? Awesome, quick xp boost. Second time? Horrible. 2k xp if someone hasn't done it before, or ~300 otherwise. Get that a couple times in a row and roulette quickly loses it's value. Aside from that, queue times seem to be going up for dps with the roulette (this is just over the course of the week so it could be fluctuating, no clue yet).

    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post

    Lol lrn2play bro.

    If you're still seeing long queue times for the Duty Finder, I highly suspect it's either your server population or the time of day you are playing. I've noticed a 20 to 50% reduction on all my queue times since 2.1 launched, and yes, that includes DPS. I'm now popping instances in 15-20 minutes instead of the 45-60 minutes I saw in 2.0. Not, that's not ideal, but it's a hell of a lot better than before.
    Anyone who says the whole lrn2play thing is either a troll or just as bad themselves. Just saying.

    Also, you do realize that DF pulls from other servers than your own right? That's why there are clusters. It should be pulling from about 10 different worlds. If queue times at peak hours are still high, then what then? 20-50%? Let's see your maths and not anecdotal information. I could log in one day and get queues of 10 minutes as dps and claim that things has changed, but that would be incorrect.
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    Last edited by Insidious; 12-21-2013 at 11:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystalynn View Post
    has problems
    So the only motive you have towards actually contributing any form of thought is a series of irrelevant and negative remarks, which I think are supposed to be ad hominem. I honestly couldn't tell because you tried to bring up so many new points and topics that are just a pain to read. Next time, try to be more cohesive when you're trying to deliver an argument or whatever that huge lump of text was. Moving on, anyone have anything to contribute? Open methods are welcome.
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