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    Every PVP MMO normalizes gear in PVP

    GW2(SPVP), WOW arenas(next expansion) both normalize gear in arena setting PVP, because no one likes losing to someone because they slay dragons and you don't. Get with the times SE, I'm sick of losing to people simply due to gear.

    No one likes being outgeared in structured PVP and losing due to someone doing 30% more damage than you anymore, keep that in world PVP and out of structured PVP like the only PVP we currently have.

    My entire team has to change their entire strategy and playstyle if we're against people in full allagan weapons or full ilvl 70 PVP gear, it's zero fun.

    Please add preset gear we can pick from and allow us to pick our melds as well, and make everyone start with 30 AP. This problem will only get MUCH worse as the game ages, and new players will be >>LITERALLY<< unable to stand a chance in PVP against anyone who's been playing for a few months, regardless of skill level.
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    Last edited by Shiyo; 12-20-2013 at 01:44 PM.

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    nope

    go que for lvl 40 if u want equalized casual pvp
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    No... PvE gear should be useless, PvP gear is great! It gives everyone an objective. GW2 SPvP was boring because there was no point in it, nothing to work towards.
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    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Wait, did you just say equalized fair and balanced PVP is "Casual"?

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    Last edited by Shiyo; 12-20-2013 at 01:58 PM.

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    LMAO! Nope!

    Try actually working for your gear and goals instead of getting everything handed to you. All you do is complain about everything because you have to work for it Shiyo. If someone puts in the time and effort to gear themselves out properly for PVP they should have the advantage over someone that doesn't. In the end, gear isn't the end all be all. If you are skilled enough and have the teamwork for it you can beat them. But between two equally skilled players/teams, the advantage should go to the team who put te effort into gearing themselves properly for PVP.
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    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukiyo View Post
    LMAO! Nope!

    Try actually working for your gear and goals instead of getting everything handed to you. All you do is complain about everything because you have to work for it Shiyo. If someone puts in the time and effort to gear themselves out properly for PVP they should have the advantage over someone that doesn't. In the end, gear isn't the end all be all. If you are skilled enough and have the teamwork for it you can beat them. But between two equally skilled players/teams, the advantage should go to the team who put te effort into gearing themselves properly for PVP.
    No, this isn't 2004 anymore. Gear should NEVER be the deciding factor in PVP, if it is, you need to disable PVP until it's changed.
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    GW2(SPVP), WOW arenas(next expansion) both normalize gear in arena setting PVP, because no one likes losing to someone because they slay dragons and you don't. Get with the times SE, I'm sick of losing to people simply due to gear.
    Uhm, slaying dragons doesn't help you much in PvP. the ilvl55 gear you can buy is as useful as considerably higher level gear elsewhere.

    Also, I don't really care what other games do. If there's no useful reward, nobody will play. Normalizing would kill the pvp.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    Gear progression does not belong in PVP. WOW is normalizing gear in Arenas for a reason, this is not 2004 anymore, no one likes gear progression or gear imbalances in PVP, especially arena PVP. The most successful MMO on the planet is normalizing gear in PVP, everyone else should follow suit unless they don't like money.

    Gear progression should be PVE and world PVP only.

    IT IS NOT FUN TO LOSE DUE TO GEAR.
    Then PvP isn't for you. Stick to FPS or action multiplayer games where there is no gear factor. Or play one of the games that sucks any sense of advancement, like the ones oyu mentioned.

    The most successful MMO on the planet is normalizing gear in PVP,
    it is fallicious to argue that everyone should simply imitate whatever the most famous example did.

    Normalizing is just catering even more to carebears than this game already does. If you couldn't heed the advice above, then play level 30 or 40 cap, where virtually everyone has gear that exceeds the cap and thus gets capped down to it.

    Without the progression, interest will wane much more quickly.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 12-20-2013 at 01:40 PM.

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    Please, god, no.

    Equalizing gear = no gear progression.
    And I like progression if I invest a lot of time and work into something. (i.e. why I found PvP in GW2 boring as hell since investing time into PvP there just meant prettier gear.)

    As mentioned before, go play the lv.40 brackets where gear is somewhat more equal, if that's what you're looking for. Gear up there, and then hit the lv.50 brackets.
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    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Gear progression does not belong in PVP. WOW is normalizing gear in Arenas for a reason, this is not 2004 anymore, no one likes gear progression or gear imbalances in PVP, especially arena PVP. The most successful MMO on the planet is normalizing gear in PVP, everyone else should follow suit unless they don't like money.

    Gear progression should be PVE and world PVP only.

    IT IS NOT FUN TO LOSE DUE TO GEAR.
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    Then go play WoW!! kekekeke I kid, I kid.
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