commendations are really depressing

[Grizzlebeard]

I've received 5 commendations so far from around as many runs and I'm guessing that's mostly due to explaining strategies to first timers. The truth of the system, much like the additional rewards in the roulette system, is it's skewed in favour of tanks and healers. No one really ever says, "Well done" to a DD job but they feel a tank or healer who have simply done their job and not sucked are at the top of the pecking order when it comes to handing them out.

[Calyanare]

No one really ever says, "Well done" to a DD job but they feel a tank or healer who have simply done their job and not sucked are at the top of the pecking order when it comes to handing them out.

That's because it's much easier for a bad tank or healer to make a run a completely miserable experience. If a DPS is bad, it usually doesn't go too much further than just taking longer to kill things--and besides that, there are two of them, and you have decent odds that at least one of them will be competent.

[Jyoeru]

Sure thing! Just run 500 dungeons first though, and then you can have your shinies. You know, since my way involves still doing content and earning them, whereas yours is the new generation entitlement way that gives you things for nothing.

So you think it's more fair for one person to get all of the commendations when the entire group was good, instead of everyone getting one if a group was good? Really? Well now I know who to never give one to should our paths ever cross in a dungeon.

Your ideal system was that tank/healer and DD/DD exchanged all the time. That's the same thing as the system just giving everyone a commendation. That's more in line with entitlement than my sarcastic reply (clearly you missed the sarcasm).

If everyone is going to get a commendation for the run automatically, then it negates the system. Might as well just give everyone the rewards. Again, you missed the sarcasm.

I don't need your stinking commendation. I just got my princely hatchling today. Mind you that 90% of my commendations have come from my role as a DD. I know I must be doing something right when I get 2 (frequently) and 3 (sometimes) commendations from runs. If anyone was guaranteed the rewards for 500 runs, IT WOULD NEGATE THE WHOLE REASON THE SYSTEM EXISTS TO BEGIN WITH. I guess you missed that part.

The system isn't there to reward "good" players. It's to reward helpful players and/ or good ones who have made some kind of impact in the run. That's what the tooltip says.

I'd rather get 2 and 3 a run for trying hard to make the party have a good run than get 1 for every run (doing the same thing), and knowing that everyone is getting 1 too, whether or not they made an impact or were a good player. BTW: not all players are equal. Most of the time there really is only one player who was the good one.

Good tanks: hold all the aggro, mark, and recover when a problem occurs.
Good healers: heal and deal damage (as I do on my WHM)
Good DD: watch their aggro, burn their targets, cover the healer when they're in trouble, and--in my case--kite tank when needed to get the boss or pack of mobs down.

That's how I see it, anyway.

I don't disagree with that but it just highlights how flawed the system is. Failing either of them being atrocious then the commendations will generally go to either the tank or healer.

This is false. I get most of the commendations in most of my runs as a DD. If you're not getting them, you might need to reconsider how you're playing.

I am usually the healer, and it's fairly obvious to me (and the tank too, usually) if one of the DPS is carrying the other. That person (the one carrying, not the one being carried) usually gets a commendation from me, unless there's a good reason to give it to someone else.

This. This right here. This. I do it for DD, too. I give my commendation to the player who I feel truly put the most into the party.

[Grizzlebeard]

That's because it's much easier for a bad tank or healer to make a run a completely miserable experience. If a DPS is bad, it usually doesn't go too much further than just taking longer to kill things--and besides that, there are two of them, and you have decent odds that at least one of them will be competent.

I don't disagree with that but it just highlights how flawed the system is. Failing either of them being atrocious then the commendations will generally go to either the tank or healer.

[Technyze]

What's also depressing is when someone begs to vote for him/her... at the very start.

Ive totally done that!

[Calyanare]

I don't disagree with that but it just highlights how flawed the system is. Failing either of them being atrocious then the commendations will generally go to either the tank or healer.

I am usually the healer, and it's fairly obvious to me (and the tank too, usually) if one of the DPS is carrying the other. That person (the one carrying, not the one being carried) usually gets a commendation from me, unless there's a good reason to give it to someone else.

[Grizzlebeard]

This is false. I get most of the commendations in most of my runs as a DD. If you're not getting them, you might need to reconsider how you're playing.

This if false! I get most of my commendations in most of my runs as a tank! If you're getting them on a DD you're clearly running with friends and getting them to vote for you.

See how that works?

Neither of use can prove the other wrong so why come to this thread being antagonistic and overly defensive to the other posters?

[Jyoeru]

This if false! I get most of my commendations in most of my runs as a tank! If you're getting them on a DD you're clearly running with friends and getting them to vote for you.

See how that works?

Neither of use can prove the other wrong so why come to this thread being antagonistic and overly defensive to the other posters?

Actually, you can't run with friends and get them to vote for you. PS: in English language clearly=/=might.

The reason I come in antagonistic as it were is to deride the notion that you must be a tank/healer to get commendations; that the system needs some kind of fix. The negative attitudes regarding the system are most unfortunate. People just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

And if anything, I am on the offense, not defense.