commendations are really depressing

[Kule]

I had an awesome group of first timers in Copperbell mines HM and we were all talking/ working out the fights together.. we did second boss first time and the last boss on third try once we realised the rocks didn't respawn.

Sad thing was that everyone was playing on the same level and at the end as I was whm they all just gave me the commendations and i felt a bit guilty for it considering it's not a hard dungeon to heal and the DD's were doing most of the work with the boss mechanics.

I suggested to my FC that it would be nice if after every 5th commendation you give out you recieve one yourself as a reward for paticipating. At least this way you'll earn some even if it's a bit slow.

[banned]

is there always a reason to commend someone?
i mean if its just your standard run, with a group that everyone obviously knows what to do, why commend. its silly. if someone lead a couple of inexperienced players while explainging what to do , thats something, or prevented a wipe somehow, idk.

but throwing out commendations on a standard run? c'mon

[AmnesiaHaze]

is there always a reason to commend someone?
i mean if its just your standard run, with a group that everyone obviously knows what to do, why commend. its silly. if someone lead a couple of inexperienced players while explainging what to do , thats something, or prevented a wipe somehow, idk.

but throwing out commendations on a standard run? c'mon

its free to give so why not help someone to collect em? imagine if everyone had your attitude it would take ages to get a good amount of em

[amnie]

is there always a reason to commend someone?
i mean if its just your standard run, with a group that everyone obviously knows what to do, why commend. its silly. if someone lead a couple of inexperienced players while explainging what to do , thats something, or prevented a wipe somehow, idk.

but throwing out commendations on a standard run? c'mon

because the main reason they gave us this system was so we'd encourage people to be NICE to each other, not 'amazing at their role'.

c'mon, indeed.

[Deifact]

because the main reason they gave us this system was so we'd encourage people to be NICE to each other, not 'amazing at their role'.

c'mon, indeed.

I don't know if it's a western/eastern thing but i doubt anyone here actually gives commendations for being nice. Most dungeon finder parties no one even talks to eachother, so what do you have left to gauge people on? How they perform their roles. Unfortunately healer/tank roles are more obvious and easy to gauge so i suspect DPS get shafted a bit when it comes to commendations.

[amnie]

I don't know if it's a western/eastern thing but i doubt anyone here actually gives commendations for being nice. Most dungeon finder parties no one even talks to eachother, so what do you have left to gauge people on? How they perform their roles. Unfortunately healer/tank roles are more obvious and easy to gauge so i suspect DPS get shafted a bit when it comes to commendations.

any statistics to back this up?

you suspect, indeed.


on the topic of 'leaving right away'...

I .always. finish a dungeon with at least a quick 'see you around' or something similar. that's more than enough time for people to vote. and if they don't, then they don't. *shrug*

[Deifact]

any statistics to back this up?

you suspect, indeed.

How would I acquire such statistics in a reliable fashion? How could I prove my statistics are valid? Take screenshots of every commendation and my role? How would you know I don't just play DPS badly and such don't get commendations as often as when i play healer/tank?

I wish I could do those things but to be honest it isn't worth spending the time on! I guess what i'm trying to point out is that the feature doesn't seem to work as intended if people don't actually socialise. I love to socialise! But no one talks to me

[Fenwick]

People will commend or not commend based on their own personal criteria (which is how it should be), I for one always commend since I don't see the harm in giving someone a little something extra for their time. I base who gets my commendations off of attitude and sociability, whether or not the person cares to respond to me or if they could care less about what is going on and simply going through the motions.

What happens is roughly secondary, if people are inconveniencing other people they'll be low on my list. I don't commend tanks who don't dodge for instance or DD who try to pull more than the tank is comfortable with. If it is someone's first time and they do well, I'll usually throw a commendation their way.

[McStagger]

People will commend or not commend based on their own personal criteria (which is how it should be)...

Agreed. As someone who is currently leveling DPS classes, to clear out my inventory of gear, and seeing how infrequently DPS seems to be commentated, I usually commend the other DPS by default unless they do something particularly bad like constantly pull aggro, decide they want to tank because the current tank isn't pro, control the speed of the run by deciding when and what to pull, etc.

[ninthfantasy]

There is kind of an awkward moment at the end when people are too scared to leave in case nobody has voted yet (if that makes sense?) like people edge towards the exit. I always give one straight away, wait like 10 seconds, then just leave. I've gotten 5 so far, some from PvP and some from HM dungeons. I'm not expecting to get them a lot, I play DPS, and people probably aren't going to vote most of the time. I'm just gonna be happy when I do get one.