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    Nandrolone's Avatar
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    Why Do Vieras Have The Same Hempen Design As Hyur Midlanders?

    I figured I should ask, because it’s been on my mind for awhile now. Is it because:

    A.) Square Enix finally plans on making Hempen Pantalettes and Hempen Camise design styles race unlocked, so any race can wear any sort of design?

    or

    B.) They were lazy when developing Viera, and chose not to give them a unique Hempen design.
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    Wondered that myself. Wish I could say I had any confidence at all that it was A and not B.
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    It's C: They already have underwear, their racial outfit. No need for 2.
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    C. They had time management issues with the development of both Viera and Hrothgar and took shortcuts wherever possible to meet the expansion deadline. I still remember the last Fanfest where the outright stated that the Hrothgar werent media ready till right before the event, and if you look at the Viera reveal all the models are using the same face. This is only a handful of months before launch, mind.

    I think they just flat out bit off more than they could chew. But instead of delaying the races till they were better realized they rushed them out to meet a deadline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    C. They had time management issues with the development of both Viera and Hrothgar and took shortcuts wherever possible to meet the expansion deadline. I still remember the last Fanfest where the outright stated that the Hrothgar werent media ready till right before the event, and if you look at the Viera reveal all the models are using the same face. This is only a handful of months before launch, mind.

    I think they just flat out bit off more than they could chew. But instead of delaying the races till they were better realized they rushed them out to meet a deadline.
    What kind of reasonable argument is this? No, you're mistaken. It's all about laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    C. They had time management issues with the development of both Viera and Hrothgar and took shortcuts wherever possible to meet the expansion deadline. I still remember the last Fanfest where the outright stated that the Hrothgar werent media ready till right before the event, and if you look at the Viera reveal all the models are using the same face. This is only a handful of months before launch, mind.

    I think they just flat out bit off more than they could chew. But instead of delaying the races till they were better realized they rushed them out to meet a deadline.
    I totally agree that Viera & Hrothgar were most likely rushed to meet a deadline, but what leaves me scratching my head now is, why are they taking the stance of no longer attempting to bring old hairstyles to Viera, and why are hats seemingly impossible to bring to both Viera and Hrothgar?

    With Viera at least, they originally said that they would bring some hairstyles over, but not all. Now we've been told they won't add any old styles - custom coifs only. Now that they are past the initial ShB push, why can't they work on adding the old to Viera? I'm assuming their head is a unique mesh, so perhaps it would take time for them to implement - but this is the game dev we're talking about. It's very within their power to do this. Even if it wasn't an all-at-once thing, they could release them in batches if the future projects are keeping them occupied for the most part. But to flat out say, No, we're just not going to do that? I really struggle with that decision.

    And hats! Hats complete so many looks and styles. As they say, glamour is the ultimate endgame, and Viera/Hroth are at a rather hefty disadvantage there. :P Again, I'm sure fitting hats to both races would be quite the undertaking, but this is just something you do and account for as a dev.

    When it came to Viera / Hroth, I had been very optimistic originally with the updates that would come after things settled down from ShB, but I've lost most of that now. I love Viera and Hroth, but they truly feel unfinished to me and it bums me out.

    edit:
    Totally forgot about the topic at hand, undies! That's another thing too! Unless this was a sign that they are going to be unlocking hempen sets in the near future (my dream!), this is just another design choice that adds to the overall feeling of being rushed/incomplete races. ._.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 12-04-2019 at 12:10 AM.

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    they are? I didnt know.
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    Rushed them, too lazy to "finish" them, don't care about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Rushed them, too lazy to "finish" them, don't care about them.
    Please be a sarcastic post. No one who's played longer than a month could possibly think this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Please be a sarcastic post. No one who's played longer than a month could possibly think this.
    Don't know why you would think that. It's the truth.

    Here's some food for the eyes via hrothgar:

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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 12-03-2019 at 10:50 AM. Reason: SE quality work added
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