XIV and XI

[Draven]

First: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHNbWmGtI8c

Next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8-VsYyNwFM


Whats the difference in these videos? I want to hear your opinions.

[Tezz_Xivectro]

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Sorry i'm lazy. In the time it took to write this, i could have Copy & Pasted, but i'm tired of doing that all the time.

Edit: Thank you for updating OP. Not trying to be a douche. lol

[Azurymber]

FFXI = Strategic battles, each job has a specific task to do, no jobs -just- spam attack. Lots going on at the same time. Complex system
FFXIV = spam attack + cure. Boring and repetitive.

Hopefully this will all be fixed in the next patch

[Tezz_Xivectro]

FFXI = Strategic battles, each job has a specific task to do, no jobs -just- spam attack. Lots going on at the same time. Complex system
FFXIV = spam attack + cure. Boring and repetitive.

Hopefully this will all be fixed in the next patch

I agree with this when comparing oldschool FF11 to current FF14.

These days though, FF11 is continually blurring the lines. Abyssea made it a engage & spam cure game as well. "Melee don't engage, you'll feed it TP too fast" (only a few people on the monster while everyone sits back & watches). Despite this, FF11 is still more fun & strategic, IMO.

I'm just severely burnt on FF11 & don't like the current direction it's been going.

[RedAffinity]

+ The battle music in the FFXI video is masterfully composed and immensely more appropriate than the music in FFXIV
+ The graphics are much more advanced and beautiful in XIV
+ Despite the impressive graphics engine and game resolution, the abilities and spells look underwhelming in XIV, even in comparison to a nearly 10 year old game

As for gameplay?
+ In XI, your actions immediately register with the servers
+ In XIV lag can sometimes push up to 2-3 seconds before an action is executed
+ While slow paced, the battle system in XI is accurate and precise.
+ While faster paced, the battle system is not every accurate, requires little skill, and lacks the need for absolute timing and precision in XIV
+ Enmity management in XI is perfectly balanced with each ability
+ Enmity for mages is ass backwards in XIV. Casting protect will gain instant mass hate and murder you, while mindlessly spamming AoE cure's draws very little hate

is this roughly what you were asking for?

[rainfish]

The FFXI party system you showed doesn't really happen ingame anymore, I'm assuming you don't realise how much FFXI has changed over the last couple of years.

This is the 75+ leveling system and under that it's pretty much a solo leve system now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2l2vkIQEeQ

[viion]

in XIV you run around, in XI you're stationed.

in XIV you have a Battle regiment that you're stuck in until the "queue" goes off. XI is skillfully timed using the Skill Chain system and cooperation.

in XIV the latency sucks so bad that Ixali is surfing around.

in XIV the mages can attack and not do stupid damage, can even do more than DD's sometimes.

in XIV the mages are useless other than the above or aoe Curing, some dont even attack.

in XIV there is no need to worry about curing, in XI one curaga and you'd be eating the dust, in XIV you can spam it like there is no tomorrow and the monster will have no clue.

in XIV you have that GOD DAMN ANNOYING CONFIRM SOUND ON ATTACK O M G thankfully being removed.

in XIV (in that video) an Taru is out tanking a Taru, would not happen in XI (joking ofc)

in XI (in that video) the sound is INSANELY HIGH omg this guy filmed it BLASTING OUT

in XI you pull and are stationed

in XI you have defined roles

in XI Range / position matters.

in XI you can Chain EXP.

in XI a Healing class can do more than Cure.

in XI you have party buffing (not inc pro/shell)

The FFXI party system you showed doesn't really happen ingame anymore, I'm assuming you don't realise how much FFXI has changed over the last couple of years.

This is the 75+ leveling system and under that it's pretty much a solo leve system now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2l2vkIQEeQ

And everyone quit because of it, just like everyone's quitting XIV, so what is your points? XD

Also in XI you have a choice, I restarted recently and levelling the old way is easy to do due to level sync and with double EXP its mega fast. 720exp gobs ftw! And I get invites out my ass, I stopped for couple week due to exams, logged in other day and bam instant invite lol no flag.

Who cares anyway, you get naked hume chicks in chests in Abyssea so its FTW

[Draven]

The FFXI party system you showed doesn't really happen ingame anymore, I'm assuming you don't realise how much FFXI has changed over the last couple of years.

This is the 75+ leveling system and under that it's pretty much a solo leve system now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2l2vkIQEeQ

I'm well aware of how the game has changed and so posting a video of current XI would do no good to this comparison.


Remember, this is about these videos in particular. I think they accurately represent what most people remember in XIs group play and typical group play in XIV.

So far only RedAffinity has managed to properly respond. I would like more comparisons like this

[Tezz_Xivectro]

The FFXI party system you showed doesn't really happen ingame anymore, I'm assuming you don't realise how much FFXI has changed over the last couple of years.

This is the 75+ leveling system and under that it's pretty much a solo leve system now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2l2vkIQEeQ

I see this & i'll raise you Dominion Ops !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e_hc8Im9eM
Now for someone to come in with AoE cleaving video.

In regards to just how fast leveling in FF11 is now.
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/102704-New-EXP-values-Outside-of-Abyssea/page3

Is this a joke? lol. You can make 100,000-300,000 exp an hour in abyssea. Leveling from 75-90 in a few hours is very possible, let alone your level 37 subjob to level 75 can be done in a few hours as well now.
I been trying to get my friend to come back for 2 months now... in that time I got 5/5 af3+2 and an empyrean weapon completed lol. This game is too easy now and he still he finally came back for 1 day and quit until his stones stock pile from 1 to 100 he said lol.

Nows the time to come back... the game is better then its ever been.
I find less time punching holes in my wall and more time having fun with ff11 now.

[Honz]

music on second video is too loud, but yeah we all know FFXIV battle is just mindless spam tactics play very little part in having an efficient SP party.

Not saying tactics and strategic play doesn't exist in FFXIV, its just spamming is just as efficient and outcome is the same either way.