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    Player
    Euphe's Avatar
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    Euphe Liefe
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I treat the animation as a 0.5 cast time so I cast when the tank gets to 1/4HP; not 1/8HP. I agree with you on the notion that this pretty much goes against what the ability states (mechanic wise) but that's the only way around it. Only time it worked perfectly was on Titan HM. I noticed Titan was pulling back with his left fist and the tank was at 200HP... That was one of my best "OH SHIT!" saves in my whole entire FF14 career thus far. Just treat it as a cast time ability and you will be fine (until they hopefully fix it)...
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    lyndwyrm's Avatar
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    Poponemu Totonemu
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I know it has already been said, but I can't emphasize enough how annoying it is when I use benediction and the tank (or someone else) suddenly drops in HP, I use benediction, the ability is consumed and goes on cooldown, but the person still dies because of animation delay.

    Personally, I've been trying to get used to the delay and use it sooner, but quite often the people in danger either find a way out of it, paladin uses hallowed ground or tank gets enemies off the overzealous dps, and it feels like a waste. And, I mentioned something about this in a thread about potions, but it's really time consuming to practice something on a 5min. cooldown :/
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    YuriRamona's Avatar
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    Yuri Ramona
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    This is a problem with every animation delay in the game. If you've ever played GLD/PLD, you've likely popped a Rage of Halone against a moving target, become locked by the animation delay, only to have the ability cancelled before it resolves and the damage fail to register. You're now a dozen yalms away with a rapidly fading combo bonus.

    It's quite ridiculous even to have this system in place. The real kicker is, as people have mentioned, that the cooldown is used up when you initiate the animation, and not when you resolve the actual cast. So if the target dies or moves before the animation finishes, you lose the cooldown and the cast has no effect.
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    Aisha Knudel
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    Goblin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I still dont understand the purpose of the animation delay. Was square trying to create artificial difficulty by making spells unwieldy or something? In the games current state things like garuda ex wicked wheel ultimas burst and any number of other mechanisms can easily put a tank within 1 second of death. I stick by what i said originally Rolling chain cure 2's during these attacks keeps the tank alive more effectively than the current benediction.

    It almost feels like we are punished if we ever have to rely on this cooldown... Hopefully 2.2 gives the spell some love

    additionally i dislike that if the tank dies a half a second before i use the ability I end up using it on myself, would be great if we could get a "target is dead" or "invalid target" and simply cancel the cast rather than healing myself. for dual whm a debuff making a target cancel any additional benedictions cast within say 20 seconds or hallowed ground making pallies immune to benediction would also help.
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    Jyoeru's Avatar
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    Jyoeru Zaberu
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    Faerie
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    "Tank just got slapped and now has 5% health. TIME TO USE BENEDICTION!"

    Reflex time: .02 seconds
    Animation time: 1.5 seconds
    Boss slap time: 1 second

    Well, I just got healed to full at full. So, there's that.
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    Roland Starwind
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I hate it when I use Benediction and the target dies WHILE the Benediction animation is going on and the spell goes on the 5 minute cooldown...

    Just some thoughts but SE could either:
    A. Make the target get healed before or while the animation is going on instead of at the end of the animation.
    OR
    B. Make the target temporarily invincible for that split second so that the Benediction heals the target to full so the target doesn't die while the animation is in effect.

    This is supposed to be one of the White Mages best abilities/spells. It shouldn't be gimmicky.
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    Anolulu Nitram
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Heal on anticipation. Don't heal on reaction. And you will be a much better healer.

    True story.
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    Raestloz's Avatar
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    Vonelis Heischield
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    Tiamat
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by nitram View Post
    Heal on anticipation. Don't heal on reaction. And you will be a much better healer.

    True story.
    That's called pre-cast. Unfortunately, Benediction is for "oh shit!" and not for sustaining. If you actually predict an "oh shit!", then you're not actually a good healer. Best of all, you cannot cancel a Benediction. it's either use it or nothing

    Unless you predict Mountain Buster. That's fixed.

    And when you use Benediction in anticipation, it'd be like when you think Caduceus will swipe, so you pre-cast Benediction, but it doesn't so you just wasted a perfectly good magic to heal a few hundred HP. Then it does swipe and you're screwed
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    Lil Muffins
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Raestloz View Post
    That's called pre-cast. Unfortunately, Benediction is for "oh shit!" and not for sustaining. If you actually predict an "oh shit!", then you're not actually a good healer. Best of all, you cannot cancel a Benediction. it's either use it or nothing
    The SCH in my raid team uses Lustrate quite well as I would Benediction. It's horrible to see Benediction go off with a Lustrate, lol.

    I used to compare Benediction to lustrates but someone said not to. However with the change in lustrates I wouldn't mind a lesser cooldown, to presence of mind too.

    But eh my opinion doesn't matter, SE would've done something about these already if they felt they needed to be changed.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by nitram View Post
    Heal on anticipation. Don't heal on reaction. And you will be a much better healer.

    True story.
    Anticipation is the Scholars job. Reaction is the White Mage job.
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