remove or double time limit in duty finder!!

[razzgrizz3]

then make it possible for the SAME team to qeue again. surely that should be doable

[Seig345]

then make it possible for the SAME team to qeue again. surely that should be doable

That's what the Party Finder is for. Players on Sargatanas are already starting to add 'Please use the party finder to join" to the end of their shouts to raise awareness of the utility.

[Johnist]

then make it possible for the SAME team to qeue again. surely that should be doable

Use Party Finder, kick people you don't like, try again.

[Amyas]

Use Party Finder, kick people you don't like, try again.

I would think that would fall under 'abuse of the vote kick' that the devs said they would punish... hopefully account terminations await those reported.

[Seig345]

I would think that would fall under 'abuse of the vote kick' that the devs said they would punish... hopefully account terminations await those reported.

You're confusing this with a slightly different issue... Party Finder and Duty Finder are 2 different features of the game. By using the Party Finder, OP would be creating a group before queuing up for a dungeon, meaning he would be the leader and well within TOS to kick who he sees fit between dungeon runs, and would not involve use of the Vote Kick feature at all.

[Amyas]

You're confusing this with a slightly different issue... Party Finder and Duty Finder are 2 different features of the game. By using the Party Finder, OP would be creating a group before queuing up for a dungeon, meaning he would be the leader and well within TOS to kick who he sees fit between dungeon runs, and would not involve use of the Vote Kick feature at all.

Is there actual statement from the devs saying its okay to kick someone from a PF group just because you don't like the cut of their jib? If they're talking smack or something like that, sure I can understand, but just randomly kicking because gear or even if they aren't the best seems like it would be right up the abuse report alley.

[Seig345]

Is there actual statement from the devs saying its okay to kick someone from a PF group just because you don't like the cut of their jib? If they're talking smack or something like that, sure I can understand, but just randomly kicking because gear or even if they aren't the best seems like it would be right up the abuse report alley.

The whole point of a pre-fab group would be to pick people you want in your party based on your own criteria. That's how that whole /shout spam thing works, Party Finder is just a refined version of the same system. You aren't obligated to stick with someone if you don't like them. The party belongs to the leader. Neither the leader nor the other party members should be forced to keep someone who's either intentionally wiping in dungeons or just doesn't seem to be able to cut it after so many runs.

While we aren't talking about kicking someone due to an unagreeable gib, that situation doesn't quite apply here since the unagreeable gib owner wouldn't be invited in the first place.

Okay, so you're saying I could start a PF group, get to the last boss then kick a player at random for funsies and that doesn't fall under abuse? For some reason I don't think the devs intended for only randos to be punishable for stuff like that.

You're talking about vote kick, we're talking about the dungeon run failing, running out of time, and the leader kicking someone between queues...

Edit: In fact, that's a non-issue within this topic because the OP simply wanted to be able to re-queue with the same team so the learning process doesn't have to start all over again, which more or less means allowing for some who take a little longer to learn.

[Alhanelem]

You're confusing this with a slightly different issue... Party Finder and Duty Finder are 2 different features of the game. By using the Party Finder, OP would be creating a group before queuing up for a dungeon, meaning he would be the leader and well within TOS to kick who he sees fit between dungeon runs, and would not involve use of the Vote Kick feature at all.

Even with a preformed party, you can only vote kick once inside the instance.

The time limits are plenty long enough. If they are extended, that means more waiting to get into a duty. Once you know the dungeon, it shouldn't even take you half the time limit to beat most dungeons.

[razzgrizz3]

Even with a preformed party, you can only vote kick once inside the instance.

The time limits are plenty long enough. If they are extended, that means more waiting to get into a duty. Once you know the dungeon, it shouldn't even take you half the time limit to beat most dungeons.

did u not read the post?
i said explaining it to new players and them geting used to mechanics eats up the whole time. jesus christ

also im not saying do that on all duties. but the hard one should definately be on longer timers. if youre gonna nerf it like you did amdapor im fine with reduced times tho.

[Sinth]

I would think that would fall under 'abuse of the vote kick' that the devs said they would punish... hopefully account terminations await those reported.

You aren't entitled to join anyone's party. He can kick you for being lalafel if he wanted.