Some Food For Thought (While you wait for the game to improve.)

[Alastor]

Asking to be considerate is fine but claiming that they are acting like children seems to be on equal footing as being inconsiderate. Beyond that implying that gamers are ungrateful is nothing short of ludicrous. SE knows damn well that they cannot charge to play this game and the free play is NOT out of the goodness of their heart but desperation. Again I don't think folks should be overly aggressive of abusive but don't try to imply that they are ungrateful.

I must stress that no business is ever forced to give you something in return for your complaints. It is only in the pursuit of GOOD business that Square Enix is giving you the game for free while they work on it.

None of us are entitled to anything here. You may feel that way, and SE has certainly decided to get on their knees for us, but it is certainly within Square Enix's rights to suddenly throw this game to the wind, as much as it is their right to change the name of the game to "Invisible Fire-Breathing Buffalo Invaders."

[Edit:]And furthermore, I should have been more discreet in my word choice, but there are undoubtedly cases of users acting like children in their posts. It was not a blanket statement for every complaint uttered on these forums.

[geniusprime]

I must stress that no business is ever forced to give you something in return for your complaints. It is only in the pursuit of GOOD business that Square Enix is giving you the game for free while they work on it.

None of us are entitled to anything here. You may feel that way, and SE has certainly decided to get on their knees for us, but it is certainly within Square Enix's rights to suddenly throw this game to the wind, as much as it is their right to change the name of the game to "Invisible Fire-Breathing Buffalo Invaders."

[Edit:]And furthermore, I should have been more discreet in my word choice, but there are undoubtedly cases of users acting like children in their posts. It was not a blanket statement for every complaint uttered on these forums.

Thats my point. That they are not doing this out of the goodness of their heart its purely because of business. My other point is let people complain if they want, they should be allowed to vent their displeasure. However, they should do it in a civil manner which is one of the points your were making. With that said the main issue I had with your post is that you are trying to imply that SE is being kind or nice to gamers when in reality they are not. Its all with the intentions to make money in the end; and I don't fault them for that not even in the slightest.

[Alastor]

Thats my point. That they are not doing this out of the goodness of their heart its purely because of business. My other point is let people complain if they want, they should be allowed to vent their displeasure. However, they should do it in a civil manner which is one of the points your were making. With that said the main issue I had with your post is that you are trying to imply that SE is being kind or nice to gamers when in reality they are not. Its all with the intentions to make money in the end; and I don't fault them for that not even in the slightest.

I don't disagree with you about letting people complain. I just don't like the manner in which many people do so. That's my point.

"Complain" has a very negative connotation. It's a very American concept to "complain." You can walk into Arby's, eat a sandwich, not like it, and go and get your money back. In many other places in the world, this is simply not the case.

Instead of "complaining," which is what my five-year-old nephew does when we change the channel from Cartoon Network to ESPN, we should express our concerns at the current status of the game.

I have never once said you shouldn't be able to express your opinion, and will never agree with that statement.

[RathSkybreaker]

I must stress that no business is ever forced to give you something in return for your complaints. It is only in the pursuit of GOOD business that Square Enix is giving you the game for free while they work on it.

None of us are entitled to anything here. You may feel that way, and SE has certainly decided to get on their knees for us, but it is certainly within Square Enix's rights to suddenly throw this game to the wind, as much as it is their right to change the name of the game to "Invisible Fire-Breathing Buffalo Invaders."

[Edit:]And furthermore, I should have been more discreet in my word choice, but there are undoubtedly cases of users acting like children in their posts. It was not a blanket statement for every complaint uttered on these forums.

This may have been previously stated but I'm just going to hop in on this.. The reason they gave it to us for free, is because we won't play it if it's not free, granted some will but they will loose quickly over 70% of their already dwindling player base. People would quit, they would tell their friends.. And the word of a shitty mmo charging 10+$ a month is out rageous, and eventually the servers will drop. Fortunately SE is in a position where they are loaded and can afford to take this hit. They want to make this game grow to a point that they can make money. If they actually will is still in the unknown. I hope they do I love SE games )some of them)...

[Airlea]

People would quit, they would tell their friends.. And the word of a shitty mmo charging 10+$ a month is outrageous, and eventually the servers will drop.

I can tell you that 98% of the people I know who are playing would quit if they started charging next month. Most would never give them a chance again. I certainly wouldn't. This -is- their second chance already. I'm pretty sure SE knows this. Now we just gotta' sit back and hope they get it right.

[RathSkybreaker]

I can tell you that 98% of the people I know who are playing would quit if they started charging next month. Most would never give them a chance again. I certainly wouldn't. This -is- their second chance already. I'm pretty sure SE knows this. Now we just gotta' sit back and hope they get it right.

The fact that I have put a lot of time into this game, and I want to see it prosper is the only reason I still keep up with this hot mess.