Some Food For Thought (While you wait for the game to improve.)

[AngryNixon]

Queso Salsa <Yes, please.>

ahhh.. ya but that ain't gonna free I bet.. probably $1.50 extra. The days of free cheese additions to food items are long dead.

[weeble]

yes i used to work at On the Border, the chips and salsa free but u pay for the quesso. but man it tastes sooooo gooood. i can eat chips and cheese for the meal lol.

[CrstyCaptin]

Don't forget that word of mouth is the best advertising you can get. If they had closed down servers or kept charging people would be raging harder than they are now and thus leading to more hate towards SE. Even if they shut down the servers and opened them back up 1-2 years later you can bet that no one would pay to play and most would never even return to check it out with the next gen MMO's coming out. By keeping it f2p they're getting the 'free' advertising they desperately need from patch to patch by people simply discussing the game on numerous forums. I assume they're also betting people will constantly return to check the game out if they can freely invest a ton of time into their game and build their characters. Say 1.18 is a big hit. Everyone across all these forums will be saying "FFXIV is a ton better now, it's the perfect time to return!". By those discussions alone you'll have people dl the patch and return and even some new people go pick up the game to try it out. Just saying that they're not making it F2P without having something in it for themselves.

On a side note, it's not just the $80 that people are pissed about loosing at launch. It's also large number of people who, by looking back on XI and loving all that it was, thought XIV would be the 'new XI' and ran out to buy a new PC to be able to play this game in all it's beauty(remember those high ass system requirements?). SE hyped up launch and it failed hard. Now all these people are out 2k~$ on rig for a game that sucks. I spent that much on a new PC too but I use it for other stuff as well so it wasn't a huge loss for me.

[Alexis_Arteme]

The word "meal" annoys me more than any other word in the English language. I'm not sure why.

Despite that, I wonder if they just shut the entire thing down, wiped everything, gave anyone that had an account before that date a pretty golden chocobo, and started completely over with a new game and everyone at level 1 would create more of a crapstorm than this long, drawn out process of adding more junk to the tail end of a broken game.

[Wynn]

On a side note, it's not just the $80 that people are pissed about loosing at launch. It's also large number of people who, by looking back on XI and loving all that it was, thought XIV would be the 'new XI' and ran out to buy a new PC to be able to play this game in all it's beauty(remember those high ass system requirements?). SE hyped up launch and it failed hard. Now all these people are out 2k~$ on rig for a game that sucks. I spent that much on a new PC too but I use it for other stuff as well so it wasn't a huge loss for me.

Anyone that expected this game to be the new XI has only themselves to blame. SE has made it very clear since well before the release of this game that it was never, EVER, intended to be an XI-2 in any way, shape, form, or capacity. In addition, people that upgrade their computers just to play a game need to rebalance their priorities. We can blame SE for not releasing a quality game, but we cannot blame SE for our own bad decisions.

[KumaAkuma]

On a side note, it's not just the $80 that people are pissed about loosing at launch. It's also large number of people who, by looking back on XI and loving all that it was, thought XIV would be the 'new XI' and ran out to buy a new PC to be able to play this game in all it's beauty(remember those high ass system requirements?). SE hyped up launch and it failed hard. Now all these people are out 2k~$ on rig for a game that sucks. I spent that much on a new PC too but I use it for other stuff as well so it wasn't a huge loss for me.

Yeah I could have waited another year (or more but let's not be pessimistic) to buy a better pc damnit!

[CrstyCaptin]

Anyone that expected this game to be the new XI has only themselves to blame. SE has made it very clear since well before the release of this game that it was never, EVER, intended to be an XI-2 in any way, shape, form, or capacity. In addition, people that upgrade their computers just to play a game need to rebalance their priorities. We can blame SE for not releasing a quality game, but we cannot blame SE for our own bad decisions.

Never said XI-2. Said 'the new XI' meaning carrying the good over and leaving the bad behind and having a 'fresh start' in a new FF world. They also were very vocal and even posted tons of videos with the staff showing how the game was going to be 'awesome' and everything they were 'excited' about before release(the monster animation one sticks out in my mind). I even remember reading how leves were going to 'remove the grind'. The launch was 'hyped up'. There's no denying that. Go read JP forums and read the rage they threw at SE for letting them down so hard when a lot of them bought new PCs to get a head start before PS3 release(since PS3 was originally planned for march, and majority of the JP playerbase are console players).

They had tons of loyal fans that thought they always 'delivered' when it came to their games, including myself. Just because they didn't deliver doesn't mean it was our fault. SE blew it, not us.

I also could have waiting a while longer before upgrading... SSD prices only went down in price and I could have gotten my GPU for much cheaper ><

[SAMINUS]

Ehm...last I checked Gamestop doesn't deal in second hand MMOs. The whole CD-key/accounts with personal info are huge no goes in terms of resale. Granted there are other methods for getting rid of an MMO account, but they're frowned upon by the developers and community at large. No one likes a scrub with a bought account. So yes, you are stuck with this once you've bought it.

This isn't a restaurant scenario, this is more of a theme park scenario. They charge you to get in the door, and the goal is to coax more money out of you by showing you a good time so you don't mind picking up over priced theme park swag. Think of the game's content and amusement factor as the sights and rides, and the over priced swag as your subscription fee. This game is a theme park with few awaeome sights and a bunch of rides that are under (re) construction. Yea, they could charge for the swag. But the reality of it is this, without the entertainment no one buys the swag. A lot of people won't even want the free handouts, just a refund on their entry fee.

To put it bluntly, I paid 50 bucks for this game. Which is close to what a ticket to Busch Gardens costs if you're a local resident. If I didn't enjoy my stay there the last time I went, you can bet everything you own that I would let people know why I would never return to Busch Gardens. The same applies for this game. Complaints may be annoying to the employees and die hard fanboys that think the company can do no wrong. But it's legitimate regardless of whether or not you like it. I hesitate to use the phrase the customer is always right, because sometimes they aren't, but I will say this: If the customer ain't happy, you ain't happy. That holds true regardless of what industry you work in.

Very, very well said!! PERFECT!

[Mug]

People complaining about the game is great, the devs need to know these things. But people don't just discuss the game anymore, they attack and complain about SE as a company. The common mindset it shifting to SE vs the community. Which is silly since we all just want the same thing

I think it's simply because we've all waited so long now, we've ran out of all this "patience" that some people (including SE) constantly keep telling us we should have. So naturally, people do start to question what the heck their agenda is.

And to the OP, while your playtime doesn't make your points completely invalid, it definitely helps you see just how bad this game is after you've done the same old leves for nine months.

[Colino]

Someone forgot they spent $60 to $80 to buy the game in the first place