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    Some Food For Thought (While you wait for the game to improve.)

    (This is not directed at everyone.)

    I work at a restaurant, and before you go away, I'll make this comparison short. It is a Tex-Mex restaurant and we offer free (unlimited) chips and salsa to every guest who comes in to dine.

    The most frustrating thing is to have a guest that complains about anything related to the chips and salsa. I hear things like: "The chips are too salty." "The chips are not salty enough." "The salsa is too spicy." "The salsa is not spicy enough." ect. ect.

    When you are being given something for free, perhaps you should not be so picky. Obviously, the circumstances here are different. However, if you are currently playing the game, you aren't paying for anything. The developers of this game are not making any money off of you. Actually, they are pouring hundreds of thousands of dollars into a game that has lost them millions to make the experience more enjoyable for you.

    Whether you believe SE is fixing this game because they want a new cash cow, or whether they truly wish to give you a wonderful experience (like the one so many attest to having in FFXI), please do not be so ungrateful as to complain like children in the meantime.

    Having requests, comments, and opinions on the game and its future is a completely different story. I only ask that we be more considerate. ( Though perhaps that is too much to ask of the internet >.>)
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    Firstly in order to play this game you had to pay. The ONLY reason they cannot charge to play this game is simply because its bad. SE intentions are for people to pay to play not free to play. If no one is enjoying the game that they bought allowing them to continue to play is not a reward but simply a product of circumstance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geniusprime View Post
    Firstly in order to play this game you had to pay. The ONLY reason they cannot charge to play this game is simply because its bad. SE intentions are for people to pay to play not free to play. If no one is enjoying the game that they bought allowing them to continue to play is not a reward but simply a product of circumstance.
    And without wonderful modern-day conventions such as GameStop and eBay, if you bought a game and did not like it, you would be stuck with it. That argument is hardly reasonable.

    Forgive me if I don't see eye to eye with you, but SE could easily have not dropped the fees to this game. It is only out of wanting to keep your business that they have. I'm only asking you to be a considerate customer. Is that so hard?
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    I paid for the game and got garbage and keep getting garbage, i am sure your customers Paid for a meal in order to have the free stuff (so technically not free).
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    I like to think of it as tough love. We have to get things right sooner or it'll be harder/impossible later. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    I paid for the game and got garbage and keep getting garbage, i am sure your customers Paid for a meal in order to have the free stuff (so technically not free).
    Whether you come into my restaurant and drink only water and eat only complimentary tortillas, or buy the most expensive item on the menu, you will be given chips and salsa. So yes, they are technically free.

    But that is hardly what we're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    I work at a restaurant, and before you go away, I'll make this comparison short. It is a Tex-Mex restaurant and we offer free (unlimited) chips and salsa to every guest who comes in to dine.

    The most frustrating thing is to have a guest that complains about anything related to the chips and salsa. I hear things like: "The chips are too salty." "The chips are not salty enough." "The salsa is too spicy." "The salsa is not spicy enough." ect. ect.
    Nice analogy. I completely understand what you are saying and I feel the same way.

    But you will have people saying that they took the time and expense to get to the restaurant and will eventually pay with real money so they are entitled to this, this and that. Just as people are bound to say that they had to purchase the game to begin with.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    Having requests, comments, and opinions on the game and its future is a completely different story. I only ask that we be more considerate. ( Though perhaps that is too much to ask of the internet >.>)
    Amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastor View Post
    And without wonderful modern-day conventions such as GameStop and eBay, if you bought a game and did not like it, you would be stuck with it. That argument is hardly reasonable.

    Forgive me if I don't see eye to eye with you, but SE could easily have not dropped the fees to this game. It is only out of wanting to keep your business that they have. I'm only asking you to be a considerate customer. Is that so hard?
    Asking to be considerate is fine but claiming that they are acting like children seems to be on equal footing as being inconsiderate. Beyond that implying that gamers are ungrateful is nothing short of ludicrous. SE knows damn well that they cannot charge to play this game and the free play is NOT out of the goodness of their heart but desperation. Again I don't think folks should be overly aggressive of abusive but don't try to imply that they are ungrateful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geniusprime View Post
    Asking to be considerate is fine but claiming that they are acting like children seems to be on equal footing as being inconsiderate. Beyond that implying that gamers are ungrateful is nothing short of ludicrous. SE knows damn well that they cannot charge to play this game and the free play is NOT out of the goodness of their heart but desperation. Again I don't think folks should be overly aggressive of abusive but don't try to imply that they are ungrateful.
    I must stress that no business is ever forced to give you something in return for your complaints. It is only in the pursuit of GOOD business that Square Enix is giving you the game for free while they work on it.

    None of us are entitled to anything here. You may feel that way, and SE has certainly decided to get on their knees for us, but it is certainly within Square Enix's rights to suddenly throw this game to the wind, as much as it is their right to change the name of the game to "Invisible Fire-Breathing Buffalo Invaders."

    [Edit:]And furthermore, I should have been more discreet in my word choice, but there are undoubtedly cases of users acting like children in their posts. It was not a blanket statement for every complaint uttered on these forums.
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    Do your customers pay $80 at the door to walk in?
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