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    Quick Comparison: Info on POL vs Lodestone

    FFXI was notorious for leaving players in the dark.

    Recent changes in their staff (within the last year) have resulted in a much more open exchange of information from devs to players. None of this "we'll look into it" but real snippets of information about what is definitely coming to the game.

    It's pretty embarrassing, considering the new team on XIV was supposed to usher this in for the XIV players and (by comparison) is failing miserably.

    POL
    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

    Notice their bottom post (about to be pushed off the page) is May 16.
    Since May 16, Lodestone has seen 3 updates. The 17b patch I hardly count, but for the sake of argument let's count it.

    Lodestone
    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/index.html

    Honestly I haven't played XI since March 2010. I still check their front page and forums because they actually have continuous content updates that are interesting to read and make me feel like I understand how the game is about to change. Is this really that hard?

    I don't want to come down so hard, but we have two (pseudo)separate teams coming up with two completely different strategies of interacting with their consumers. Can you guys take some lessons from whoever the front man is on XI? Whoever's in charge of POL main page updates and linking them to the forums needs to get that going on Lodestone.

    Preferably it will link to actual update notes and not "We'll look into it" crap that floods our forum with non-answers.

    I'm sorry if this sounds hostile. I'm just embarrassed on your behalf, SE.

    PS: And what happened to the quick button to post internet links?
    Edit: When I click to edit the hyperlink button is there.
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    Last edited by Shai; 06-10-2011 at 04:41 PM. Reason: Reader Convenience

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    Bump

    This is a real problem that seems to have been gotten over looked as of late.
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    Agreed. FFXI update posts are much more precise and interesting to read than those for 14.
    Another targeting system fix they are looking into.
    How thrilling.
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    If you look in the JP forums you can see the quick, well thought out, and personable posts there. If NA received half the info JP received we wouldn't have to resort to google translate (which of course leads to miss understandings like Yoshi all ready pointed out).
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    I just don't understand how they expect us to give them feedback on the vague agendas they talk around without actually telling us about ... I'm not sure what the purpose of this forums is meant to be - other than the Reps occasionally clearing up translation errors in the Letters from Producer. (Helpful, to be sure).

    We have so many dev tags and update forums that aren't even being used - at all.

    I know it must be consuming to overhaul a battle system, and fix a game that needs this much fixing - but someone should really sit down once a week and type out a few blurbs on the intended next update. I admit I like the presentation of the Grand Company page and the new dungeon tabs (cool lore, bro, but no INFO).

    If I had to wait an extra week to get some good "lore" and "hype" spun up that's fine - but this "leave you guys hanging" for weeks at a time is getting real old, real fast. And Q&A that answer 1 out of 50 questions with a definitive answer aren't really fooling me or tiding me over. As I said Q&A gets a 10/10 for great idea, but a 4/10 for quality of responses.

    As Rentahampster said in the Gathering thread, maybe you should stick to answers you can actually give so we are actually impressed and not left feeling blown off. It's nice to be heard and it's good to have our suggestions "looked into" but that answer gets annoying by the 25th time you've heard it.

    Sorry, I'm really not even as "enraged" as I feel I sound in type. I'm just tired of being strung along like many others. I'd love to actually see some real concepts for content so I can give some REAL feedback. Instead I have to give you "real" feedback on your lack of constructive information.
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    XI just has bigger updates more often. It's not the pr guys fault that XIV team is having a 12-months-long vacation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    XI just has bigger updates more often. It's not the pr guys fault that XIV team is having a 12-months-long vacation.
    I hope they are all enjoying E3...
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    Can you guys take some lessons from whoever the front man is on XI?
    Lol isn't that Tanaka again now? that would be ironic if they went to him for advice on communication.
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    If you look in the JP forums you can see the quick, well thought out, and personable posts there. If NA received half the info JP received we wouldn't have to resort to google translate (which of course leads to miss understandings like Yoshi all ready pointed out).
    The JP forums are exactly as confusing, aggressive and obfuscated as the English ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    The JP forums are exactly as confusing, aggressive and obfuscated as the English ones.
    i would have to disagree on that one, but then again iv only been keeping up to date on the JP forum for 2 months now and from what i have noticed in that time is a lot better communication then here.
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