Some Food For Thought (While you wait for the game to improve.)

[Bled]

Can't trade computer games in to GameStop (they don't even carry FFXIV anyways).
Even selling it on eBay loses you 30-50 dollars depending on which version you're selling. Nobody wants this game for more than $10.

OP recognized his miss type on that topic a page ago and apologized.

[Alastor]

Can't trade computer games in to GameStop (they don't even carry FFXIV anyways).
Even selling it on eBay loses you 30-50 dollars depending on which version you're selling. Nobody wants this game for more than $10.

Since the price of collector's recently went down, I went in to pick one up. I bought it from GameStop store 2430 on May 12, 2011 for $24.99. Unless they've stopped selling them since then, they still do carry it. Hardly the point, but just thought folks might like to know. Go pick up your Onion Helms if you can find one!

[SuzakuCMX]

Since the price of collector's recently went down, I went in to pick one up. I bought it from GameStop store 2430 on May 12, 2011 for $24.99. Unless they've stopped selling them since then, they still do carry it. Hardly the point, but just thought folks might like to know. Go pick up your Onion Helms if you can find one!

Eh strange. Must just be my town then, none of them carried it.

[Shikyo]

And without wonderful modern-day conventions such as GameStop and eBay, if you bought a game and did not like it, you would be stuck with it. That argument is hardly reasonable.

Forgive me if I don't see eye to eye with you, but SE could easily have not dropped the fees to this game. It is only out of wanting to keep your business that they have. I'm only asking you to be a considerate customer. Is that so hard?

Bad comparison.
This game was not givin to me i had to buy it and you cannot return pc games at gamestop.
What i dont understand is the ppl that are satisfied with this game should waste less time chasing down and calling out thoes that dont in these forums.
Instead with the thought that the game is to change eventually shouldnt the ones that like it as is be trying to get as much enjoyment out of it in its current state as they can before it changes?

[kAhn360]

And without wonderful modern-day conventions such as GameStop and eBay, if you bought a game and did not like it, you would be stuck with it. That argument is hardly reasonable.

Forgive me if I don't see eye to eye with you, but SE could easily have not dropped the fees to this game. It is only out of wanting to keep your business that they have. I'm only asking you to be a considerate customer. Is that so hard?

You make no sense here considering the fact that you can not return, or trade in opened PC games to such "wonderful modern-day conventions" like EB, Gamestop or any retail store for that matter. SE knowingly dropped the fee out of all the player base that was left after that first month leaving the game, in a desperate attempt to keep people logged into there servers, an save face in the press. If you don't believe that then sir you are far to stubborn for me or anyone to try an change your mind. Have fun with this misdirected Loyalty you feel towards SE though.

Game you pay 50-60 bucks (forget price of collectors edition) to play in the first place is hardly free sir. No matter how u twist it. I can't even imagine them expecting people to pay a monthly fee of 13-15 dollars for a game that is essentially still stuck in last phase of Beta testing.

[viion]

I paid for the game and got garbage and keep getting garbage, i am sure your customers Paid for a meal in order to have the free stuff (so technically not free).

[Alastor]

I paid for the game and got garbage and keep getting garbage, i am sure your customers Paid for a meal in order to have the free stuff (so technically not free).

Whether you come into my restaurant and drink only water and eat only complimentary tortillas, or buy the most expensive item on the menu, you will be given chips and salsa. So yes, they are technically free.

But that is hardly what we're talking about.

[EdenArchangel]

I like to think of it as tough love. We have to get things right sooner or it'll be harder/impossible later. ^^

[Mikita]

I work at a restaurant, and before you go away, I'll make this comparison short. It is a Tex-Mex restaurant and we offer free (unlimited) chips and salsa to every guest who comes in to dine.

The most frustrating thing is to have a guest that complains about anything related to the chips and salsa. I hear things like: "The chips are too salty." "The chips are not salty enough." "The salsa is too spicy." "The salsa is not spicy enough." ect. ect.

Nice analogy. I completely understand what you are saying and I feel the same way.

But you will have people saying that they took the time and expense to get to the restaurant and will eventually pay with real money so they are entitled to this, this and that. Just as people are bound to say that they had to purchase the game to begin with.

Having requests, comments, and opinions on the game and its future is a completely different story. I only ask that we be more considerate. ( Though perhaps that is too much to ask of the internet >.>)

Amen!

We can choose to make someone our friend or our enemy by the way we treat them first.

Friends are likely to consider and accommodate our ideas more than enemies.