Global Chat

[Tibian]

Ugh, no thanks. Sure it's quiet, then raise a little hell? What's stopping you from talking over /sh now? You have LS, /t, and /p
At this point in the game there is really no use for it. It's just another obnoxious feature that will make the game feel more or less like another one of Aeria's F2P games. If you like it so much, go there and see that it's all crap.

Want to have a Search for party? Ask for a party flag and a tag in the party options to include a list of everyone who wants to. That's a lot more useful to people than a global chat where everything is lost in the continuous spam.

If you're so against it, the toggle feature is there.

Nobody responds in shout because it has limited range.

Also, I'd rather not sit with a party flag for 5 hours like you have to use to in XI just to get a party. So I don't want a LFG feature unless they make it as successful as WoW's was.

[Mack]

If you're so against it, the toggle feature is there.

Nobody responds in shout because it has limited range.

Also, I'd rather not sit with a party flag for 5 hours like you have to use to in XI just to get a party. So I don't want a LFG feature unless they make it as successful as WoW's was.

How does this make any sense at all? so you DON'T want a party seek feature but instead you want to spam the global chat and try and get your word in that you're making a party although almost everyone will ignore you because of the countless WTB/WTT/WTS spam going on on that channel? Instead of someone who is making a party pulls up the window to see who is seeking and sending you a /tell directly? I mean there are reasonable complaints and then there is this. TBH with you, I'll take party seek over global spam any day.

[normalforce]

How does this make any sense at all? so you DON'T want a party seek feature but instead you want to spam the global chat and try and get your word in that you're making a party although almost everyone will ignore you because of the countless WTB/WTT/WTS spam going on on that channel?

I think that's a good reason why one single global chat channel would be a just a bad idea. Too many conversations going on at once does not make for a conducive environment.

Instead of someone who is making a party pulls up the window to see who is seeking and sending you a /tell directly? I mean there are reasonable complaints and then there is this. TBH with you, I'll take party seek over global spam any day.

Global channels are not meant to be a replacement for the party seek feature as that's something that is, hands down, needed. But, I feel global channels can fill in the gaps when a party seek feature falls short.

Suppose, if you will, Joe Blow just pick up some leves in Ul'dah and while he can solo them all, Joe would prefer to get together a small party. Now, Joe could try the party seek feature and hope the people looking for a party wouldn't mind doing some leves for a bit or he could shout right next to the crystal and hope someone is actually there and willing to help. Or, perhaps Joe could send a message to the leve global chat channel that he's about to do leves at X, Y and Z and wants to see if anyone is interested in joining him.

Meanwhile, I'm out in the field hacking away at some botany nodes hoping for some sweet rare stuff, Teeny Tiny is in the market wards looking for a weapon that's not five times his height, and Miss Kitty is turning in some crafting leves at Black Brush ready to scratch someone's damn eyes out if she doesn't get a single guild mark points.

What do we have in common? While not actively interested in joining a SP party, we all belong to the global leve channel and are all interested in helping out Joe Blow with a few leves.

I'm just trying to highlight an example where people that haven't considered seeking could be pulled together just because someone was asking for assistance. My point being that one system supplements the other and is not meant to be a replacement.

And, of course, this is just an example related to party seeking. There are plenty of other uses for global chat and situations where it would augment features already in the game. (Or features that should be in the game.)

[Mack]

Global channels are not meant to be a replacement for the party seek feature as that's something that is, hands down, needed. But, I feel global channels can fill in the gaps when a party seek feature falls short.

Yea I know, that response was specific to the person I quoted I know you're all not that shallow.

Suppose, if you will, Joe Blow just pick up some leves in Ul'dah and while he can solo them all, Joe would prefer to get together a small party. Now, Joe could try the party seek feature and hope the people looking for a party wouldn't mind doing some leves for a bit or he could shout right next to the crystal and hope someone is actually there and willing to help. Or, perhaps Joe could send a message to the leve global chat channel that he's about to do leves at X, Y and Z and wants to see if anyone is interested in joining him.

And when you put it this way it gives it some merit, its a good example I'll give you that. I didn't say the system was completely useless but I was saying from my experience I dislike it because its a spam fest most of the time and a lot of trolling, its really no better than what goes on on these forums...hey maybe FFXIV will change its outlook if its ever implemented.

[normalforce]

...its really no better than what goes on on these forums...

If I had started off saying that everyone would have said hell no to global chats by now.

[kaboro]

People that play an MMO but they are fanatically against a global chat, do you see the irony here?
Yeah lets make a big drama because some kid will shout "boobs" in chat or because someone will spam some wts/wtb ads.
Lets concentrate on the negative aspects and ignore all the new players that you could help by answering their questions, all the ideas that could be exchanged, all the game info that would be made available, all the friendships that could be formed by having a global chat. Not to mention the game will feel so much more alive (and well ...*cough).
Lets say no to all that because we are oh so afraid of them spammers, yep that makes so much sense.

[Mack]

People that play an MMO but they are fanatically against a global chat, do you see the irony here?
Yeah lets make a big drama because some kid will shout "boobs" in chat or because someone will spam some wts/wtb ads.
Lets concentrate on the negative aspects and ignore all the new players that you could help by answering their questions, all the ideas that could be exchanged, all the game info that would be made available, all the friendships that could be formed by having a global chat. Not to mention the game will feel so much more alive (and well ...*cough).
Lets say no to all that because we are oh so afraid of them spammers, yep that makes so much sense.

Well clearly you can't see that people will have different opinions based on their experiences. Many people here have been through at least one MMO where they didn't need global chat, that was FFXI, and it was the most tight knit community you will ever find in an MMO (at least for the 3 years I played it)...and its funny how often "global chat will help the noobs" has come up, funny because I've never seen it used for this purpose since most things go ignored on that channel considering how often its spammed. However, if they have multiple "global" channels it might help I'd agree with that (although they would still be spammed to hell and back from my experience).