Global Chat

[Anty]

the only global chat i can think of that doesnt get abused and IF people get banned faster then they can think was EVE,
every other mmo ive seen, global chat was meeting of the primitive trolls usually, and it didnt add anything to the game, people usually didnt help, they rather laughed at other people...

The problem is... most people just disable it and the new players and assholes stay in it to "express themselves". - there might be exceptions ofc -

There can be so many ways finding a linkshell or other people.

- proper party system
- linkshell recruiting menu - NOT simple a channel - something where linkshell leaders post their website, their goals, if they are casual, hardcore whatever... endgame focused etc. etc. and you can apply . i like that idea more then a stupid global chat that has no real purpose.

the worst global chat i can think of was aion....

[Radaghast]

Global chat channels are great for auction bids and advertising stuff for sale.

[Draven]

If this Official forum was anything near civil and mature, I might have been in favor of a GC. However the overall gaming community continues to become more and more obnoxious.

Nothing good will ultimately become of the GC. It may start early on as...

"Can someone tell me where the Adventurers Guild is?" - Helpee

"In the center." - Helper
"Check you're map! " - Helper
"If you check you're map, you'll see a little icon and it says Adventurers Guild" - Helper


Then devolve to...


"Can someone tell me where the Adventurers Guild is?" - Helpee

"lol, again?" - - Nonhelper
"Chek ur map! Gawd. lrn2ply noob!" - Nonhelper
"lol noob" - Nonhelper

And then...


"Anyone know where I can find the Adventurers Guild?" - Helpee

"oh boi..." - Nonhelper
"If it was up your *** you'd know! lol" - Nonhelper
"Anal [Tender Touch] lol" - Nonhelper

[Rowyne]

the worst global chat i can think of was aion....

I'll agree with that. Aion's was terrible. You literally could not ask a question on Marchutan server without getting trolled.

However, I think it largely has to do with the community and game management. Aion had no live GMs and the game largely catered to the PvP crowd. Trolling, immaturity and disrespect toward women was rampant. It was the worst community I'd ever experienced.

WoW actually isn't bad. But I play on a RP server (Scarlet Crusade), which tends to have more mature communities. Honestly, the community on my server is about on par with the forum community here.

And I can't speak for other FFXIV servers, but Besaid has an awesome community.

I am in favor of global chat. If you think it will be nothing but trolling and spam, blame the community, not the tool. But I honestly think the Final Fantasy community is better than most.

[Spellbinder]

I am in favor of global chat. If you think it will be nothing but trolling and spam, blame the community, not the tool. But I honestly think the Final Fantasy community is better than most.

Looking at the forum, I wouldn't be so sure...

[mmk]

i dont see why they dont add custom chat channels...

let everyone make their own chat channels from a list of different ones so you can have global, just a few, or one person chat channels
it wouldnt take much development time, everything is already implemented in the game, would just need to consolidate and do a few quick tests

[Luthien]

As long as it can be turned off — I have no issues with it.

That's just it -- in my experience, it can't be. Oh, it physically can be, but the players rely on it so heavily to form groups, etc., that you realistically can't if you want to do anything. Therefore, you can't turn it off. Ever. And it just scrolls. And scrolls.

We need some better tools for creating parties, but they've already announced that we will have those soon.

Considering you have the option to filter /shout, then I don't think this would be any different. I conceptualize a "global channel" as just like a /shout, but server wide.

I would have conceptualized the same. But that's not been reality in my experience. I could probably try to explain a theory as to why, but I don't know if I would be right. I just know what reality has shown me: global chat channels are 10X worse than the worst Jeuno/Whitegate spam ever imagined being in FFXI.

As people come back to the game, the "feeling lonely" in the game will get better. And, in my opinion, writing this in October while this thread began in June, it has vastly improved already.

Also, I'd rather not sit with a party flag for 5 hours like you have to use to in XI just to get a party. So I don't want a LFG feature unless they make it as successful as WoW's was.

The reason the party flag system in XI wasn't adequate was that there was little content that was playable solo. In XIV, I feel comfortable with the idea of putting up a party flag and going to do some solo leves or doing my crafting leves.

I have yet to see a decent argument in this thread against having global chats. Gold sellers and spam not being ones, as you can obviously disable the global chats.

See above. The comments on this thread prove that point: People here arguing in favor of global chat want 2 things. They want a social channel and they want a place to chat for party invites and forming groups. Put those together, which the the community WILL DO, and you have a disaster. You can't turn it off because you need it to get in a party. But you can barely sift the party invites out of the mass of social talk/spam/flamewars. I don't care if you have 15 different global chat channels separated by type. People who want their particular request and/or flamewar-starter heard the best will pick whichever channel seems the most populated. I would. And that's what I've seen.

I swear to god the people who always say no to things have never actually played another MMO. Almost every other AAA MMO has global chat channels and they do FINE.

I wouldn't swear that one to God, because you're wrong. I played Rift. Does that count? And one reason I left was the global chat. It gave me NO sense of community. I HAD to pay attention to it if I wanted to get into a raid. No GMs monitored it. It was filled with spam. It scrolled incessantly. Oh, and I wasn't on a highly populated server.

Please, please, please SE -- I know several of you say you've played other MMOs. If you feel the players are truly demanding a global chat system, find a way to monitor them or something. Threaten to suspend players having general chat in the LFG channel, and vice versa, or something. (I don't see this happening because of the amount of resources SE would have to devote to doing this.) And do NOT make them automatically joined.

[Answa]

[NefarioCall]

^^Much as i don't like killing kittens...
well, it brings an old meme to mind i shouldn't post here.

BUT,
This is an awesome idea and i don't exactly see it being discussed anywhere else.
Keep pushing for it!!

[Lavani]

I've never seen global chat be a positive thing.
In every game I've seen "Global Chat" = Global spam/harassment/crude language/RMT advertisements.
I don't like global chat~ :3

Don't use it question mark.