Global Chat

[normalforce]

Reposted from my "add right click functionality to the chat log"

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-Improvements


This would actually lead to *less* spam in /sh since you can relegate all trade and party search shouts to a separate tab.

I can fully get behind the first four chat log improvements that you suggested. /l1, /l2, ... /l9 should have been in the game from the get go. But c'est la vie, what can you do. I don't quite know how I feel about the last two. However, the one shout per 20 minutes to prevent spamming in intriguing.

It kinda reminds me of a less strict version of XKCD's Signal, which I thought was an interesting concept as well. The premise, in case you didn't know, is nothing can be said twice. From the wiki:

It's pretty simple. There's only one rule. Don't say anything that someone else has already said. This rule is enforced by ROBOT9000, known as Moderator in the channel. When taking into consideration if something has been said or not, repeating characters, case, punctuation, nicknames, smilies, symbols, and multiple spaces are stripped from the line.

[Wolfie]

I swear to god the people who always say no to things have never actually played another MMO. Almost every other AAA MMO has global chat channels and they do FINE. Nobody who plays those games complains about the global chat channels, because you can LEAVE the channels.

At this point, I'm pretty sure anyone who says no is just a blind WOW-hater, because WOW has global chat channels and clearly anything WOW has is bad.

[Xandre]

I swear to god the people who always say no to things have never actually played another MMO. Almost every other AAA MMO has global chat channels and they do FINE. Nobody who plays those games complains about the global chat channels, because you can LEAVE the channels.

At this point, I'm pretty sure anyone who says no is just a blind WOW-hater, because WOW has global chat channels and clearly anything WOW has is bad.

I feel like in this case, this is one of the features many are familiar with and have experienced in other games and is why they are suggesting we don't have one.

[Wolfie]

I feel like in this case, this is one of the features many are familiar with and have experienced in other games and is why they are suggesting we don't have one.

If people actually PLAYED those games, they'd know that practically every "con" posted here is either fully made up or existed, but was fixed within a month or two of the game coming out.

[Reabs]

I can understand why people don't want a global chat channel system. There fears are not unfounded it very likely will be used improperly similar to the market wards at the start of the game. I also don't think these global channels are going to magically create a sense of community (especially if everyone just shuts them off because of spam).

On the other hand global channels are nice for having conversations, occasionally putting out information about something that only comes around once or twice, and perhaps recruit for LS's if your into that (I'm not all for that but I know others are).

If they do add global chat channels I'd appreciate if they added channels that are reserved for only players at max rank. Ex. Once Joe Awesome hit's Archer rank 50 he can now speak in both the global rank 50 chat (for any player with any class at rank 50) and the Archer rank 50 chat (reserved for Archers who achieve rank 50) channels. These channels would virtually have no rmt spam, would avoid any low rank clutter from interfering with people trying to gather only high rank players and sell high rank items, and give players of the same class the ability to talk to other players of that class to potentially improve their play style from the experience of others.

[Renshi]

Ok, instead of saying what does a Global Chat harm, try to say why Global Chat should be implemented.

For all that I know from this topic:

YAY - Helps Trades and Party-finding, also interact with other people on the world.

NAY - Disturbing, annoying. That would let everybody toggle Global Chat off and never use it.

For the things so far, My mind says: We don't need it. The moment we'll need it, they'll implement it, and we know when we need it.

[Rentahamster]

Ok, instead of saying what does a Global Chat harm, try to say why Global Chat should be implemented.

Yeah, in my view, having global shout categories has more positives than negatives.

Additionally, the potential negatives of a global shout can be mitigated to some extent with a few solutions like I laid out in my earlier post.

[kaboro]

I locked the door so that the Lie could not come in, but then the Truth whispered from behind the door: psst, hey how do i come in?
You dont want general chat because in your mind the majority of players are a bunch of freaks that will spam your head off.
You want to "lock them out" but by doing that you lock out all the helpful and enjoyable people out there.
An mmo is a community game, each community has people we like and people we dont like, we have to live with it, locking them out is not a solution.

[Felis]

No global chat, but a global lfg and global trade would be good

[Celtodeno]

Why not just make it possible to turn some or all of your linkshells on at once and viewable in a single chat log, maybe just in different colors. Then, people with a lot of shells could have the illusion of global chat and more private people can only turn 1 or 2 on.

If you can 12 LS's then you could respond to them with /1 - /12. This way people could craft their own global chats.

This group is probably more mature than most mmo groups so global chat might not be as bad as say, dc universe online... but i think we can craft a better concept of Global Chat than the current MMO standard.