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  1. #21
    Player
    Wadoka's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Eilis Tozet
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 52
    All I can say is, take the time before the run starts, to remind the ranged DPS, they have to give you time to run in and make your pull.

    Most low-level dungeon problems like this are caused by enthusiastic, probably well-meaning ranged DPS who start shooting from their extreme range, before you get in Shield Lob/Tomahawk range, and then you get to watch the mobs run right past you as they charge the tasty treat that shot first. Then you have to do a flurry of work to get them back.

    If you can't get them to listen (I had one a couple of nights ago, a Thaumaturge who kept running off WAAAAY ahead of the party) then you pretty much have to chalk it up to a busted run and let them die. Over. And over. And over...
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  2. #22
    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    Sinth Reborn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 52
    When I'm tanking, if the DPS pulls a mob before I do, or attacks it before I am able to land my 1st enmity building ability, they get to keep the mob all to themselves. It is then up to the healer if he/she wants to heal the idiot DPS. Its always hilarious when they dont, and we stand there while the mob kills the DPS and resets. Then we pull correctly as he watches from the floor.
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  3. #23
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    KenzieLynch's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kenzie Lynch
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    A couple of days ago I was running CT, and our tank got kicked because he was new and made a few mistakes. I told my party they were harsh for kicking him and I got kicked too.

    What's worse is that it was only 2 members of the party that were vocal through all this, and so the rest of the party just went along with it. It's just too easy to kick someone in CT because they are replaced almost immediately.
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  4. #24
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    A couple of days ago I was running CT, and our tank got kicked because he was new and made a few mistakes. I told my party they were harsh for kicking him and I got kicked too.

    What's worse is that it was only 2 members of the party that were vocal through all this, and so the rest of the party just went along with it. It's just too easy to kick someone in CT because they are replaced almost immediately.
    Hope you reported them.
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  5. #25
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    kingatlas's Avatar
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    Akylios Dono
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    Odin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Well dps were rude even before 2.1..so maybe your just new?

    The a good chunk of ppl that play dps, have bigmouths and act rude because that's who they are.
    It's more predominant in DPS, than tanks or healers. I doubt it has anything o do with the kick system, since they are just as vulnerable as you.

    When I get DPS that attack what they want, no matter what, I just break them in, like wild horses.
    Let them take the aggro off you, and don't take it back, let them get low a few times and they will get the message, if they don't, then let them die.
    No biggie you don't need two dps anyways, plus dps are replaced quickly with finder. So just vote them out if the party see's what your seeing.

    but next time you get a problem do this,
    /emote gives DPS the middle finger

    lo GL bud
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  6. #26
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    Amyas's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Amyas Leigh
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    Sorry impatient dps, I will let you die. Vote kick me? Ty for no leave penalty. You want your tomes? Dps and don't run ahead pulling. That goes double for those mean, silent healers that pull with an instant right when I '/' at a boss. The only reason I don't run outside the instant and then force d/c after I /point /laugh at you after you've wiped is because there are two others that weren't being d**** and were doing their best.
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  7. #27
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    Billie21's Avatar
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    Mikh Lihzeh
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 47
    DPS, Tanks and even Healers didn't wait for votekick to be rude.


    off topic, since DPS behaviour seem to be of interest on this thread:
    I personally don't mind DPS pulling when I tank. I just inform them of my "You pull it, you tank it" policy. Let them do my job, if they're fine with it, who am I to complain? The healer's the one who has a harder time because of them.
    As for when I heal, I only heal DPS who don't pull (except if it's the team's strategy). Wouldn't want to get all that hate directed to me, right?

    If that gets me kicked, well, Amyas said it all. Hasn't happened so far.
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    Last edited by Billie21; 12-27-2013 at 06:24 AM.
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  8. #28
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    BHolland's Avatar
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    Haures Bune
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 70
    Nothing aggravates me more then trying to pull a few mobs from a room to pull them back to safe spot and I have a DPS right behind me following wanting to pull the whole room...
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  9. #29
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    AmberEarns's Avatar
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    Character
    Amber Earns
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 70
    Rude people stink. but Some things to help along tanking might make it a little less unpleasant.

    1. make a marking macro. put your first attack ranged ability in a macro with a mark. This way you don't have to pause to mark and I also keep the unmark version. If you target nothing and hit this ability it pulls up the marking icons for faster retrieval also.

    Most of the time the dps should be on that main target.

    Voice yourself in the beginning of the dungeon , "Hi everyone, I am New to tanking and want to keep this fast for you so I will be marking and would love it if you could stay on target after i hit it"

    You would be surprised how well people respond when they know what you want before you do it.
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  10. #30
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    Brutikus4th's Avatar
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    Character
    Caeliana Calahko
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Dps are a dime a dozen. Just move onto 'good' dps...
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