PvP Initial Impressions.

[Paikis]

Warriors are useless once you've used Holmgang.
Paladin are useful for running interference. Turns out stuns with no cooldowns are fun, and so are the other control effects.
Sleep is bullshit. People are sleeping entire teams and then blowing one person up at a time.
Storm's Path debuff would be nice, if you could ever get the damned thing off. It's at the end of a 3 part combo that you can never land because the combo times out while you're trying to get into range. Can use Holmgang to get it off once though.

Seems like you just pop all your cooldowns, Holmgang their healer and try to kill him before he can run away.

EDIT2: Looks like the defensive/offensive bonuses from morale are decent. The beginner PvP set (Wolf) seems to be about the same effectiveness as full i90 PvE gear, you'll just have fewer hit points. If you have i90 gear, use it, else buy the Wolf stuff.
EDIT3: Healers seem to have discovered the sprint button, which is incredibly annoying since you need TP to do... anything. Chasing a sprinting healer is a waste of time.
EDIT4: Don't bother with tank stances or tanking jewellery. No one will hit you anyway, just go full damage setup.

[Euphe]

*gulp* looks like I'm going to have to learn avoidance hehe.

[TekkaTakeda]

Nope.

Sleeping entire teams? You're talking about scrubs. Nobody is having their entire team slept unless it's specifically 2x BLM and 1x WHM and that's if it isn't broken by skill or through damage.

I'm guessing you only went in with DF. I'm talking premade, so experiences may vary.

Warriors useless? Easily one of the funniest things I've heard all morning. Look into playing as MRD w/ Invigorate if you're concerned about catching healers. I don't personally do this because I run with a MNK and play linebacker/peeler.

There's a bit of a difference between i55 PvP and i90 PvE. The HP buffer is nice, but the % atk/def gained from Morale is higher than the difference in raw stats (from what I have sen (anecdotal)).

Thank you for the udpate though. I disagree, but all I really care about is people are PvPing and glad to see that you are as well :-)

[Ketch]

Had a chance to Holmgang my first Mage today in PVP.

Funniest site ever seeing this short lil Lala being roped in on my chain. He kept trying to run away.... but I had him.

Reminded me of Hellraiser for some reason.

My team lost but I was not slept once. Pld's stun was a pain in the arse.

[ZDamned]

I Holmganged a White Mage this morning!

He was locked with a wall between he and I... /facepalm

[whiskeybravo]

Seems like you just pop all your cooldowns, Holmgang their healer and try to kill him before he can run away.

That's exactly what I was afraid of with PvP. Just kill the healer and it would be over shortly. I haven't played it yet but if that's how it's gonna be I won't be missing anything.

[snakey77]

sadly my impressions of it are mixed for the bad: low points almost stupid low will take so long to get enough to get decent points and no i don't want points really fast but my concern is 1 map 1 thing no variety will get old real quick.. i am using the finder as i hate yelling in chat and i don't have a guild. not sure if the points are better if you group outside..wolf gear as a blm I've got a target painted on me from the start I'm running full hq and yes its better but makes little diff being a target not unlike healers. for the good its is fun and intense but brings me back to the point of ludicrous farming to start getting good pvp gear .. personally they should lower the cap to 6k and give 100 win / 50 lose then reset every week to me 6k is roughly giving ppl 1 main item to buy a week…. to the op though I've got a lvl 40 war tank that i might respect for damage at least i don't that a big fn target painted on my back

[Fyreus]

Paladin are useful for running interference.

So whack healers as they cast, CC the fk out of everyone, and troll everyone possible? *logs in*

[Fyreus]

That's exactly what I was afraid of with PvP. Just kill the healer and it would be over shortly. I haven't played it yet but if that's how it's gonna be I won't be missing anything.

People are forgetting that we have classes: Healers have access to a TON of anti-CC, CC, and damage preventive measures. If you see someone pop all their moves you simply flash > Virus >
surecast and try to live/run (unless blms can warp). In the next few moments that person will be weak and defenseless. Most seasoned pvpers WANT someone to blow all CDs because then they're as dangerous as a wild Magicarp.

[whiskeybravo]

People are forgetting that we have classes: Healers have access to a TON of anti-CC, CC, and damage preventive measures. If you see someone pop all their moves you simply flash > Virus >
surecast and try to live/run (unless blms can warp). In the next few moments that person will be weak and defenseless. Most seasoned pvpers WANT someone to blow all CDs because then they're as dangerous as a wild Magicarp.

I need to check it out at least to be sure. But healing my FC doesn't sound as fun when you're the mole in whack-a-mole.