Thread: 2.1 WAR PVE First impression

I'm more pissed they didn't remove the stupid 5 seconds Pacification from Berserk that it was rumored they would do.

Originally Posted by Sargon

My toughts :
A lot of wonderful changes making us more solid tank with even more damage output. To me WAR had an edge over PLD in 4men dungeons /speed runs, and it's even more true now.

But I'm pretty sure we're NOT on par with PLD when it comes to damage mitigation, we're missing at least a BIG defensive CD insted of weaklings like Inner beast & Thrill of battle.
There is still no room in raid for offtanks. Regarding raids (Titan HM+, coil) we're at best a second choice.

i have both at 50 and agree with most of what you say here, besides the part where you say it has an edge over Pally in 4mans and speedruns, there isnt a single bit of content in the game, (pre patch) that a WAR had a edge over pallys in, maybe you just worded it wrong.

Originally Posted by Skold

Just so you all know Holmgang is resisted by every boss in Coil and is essentially useless. It's not even close to a hallowed ground sub.

A great example is mountain buster from Titan, a pally pops hallowed a few seconds after the heart phase while at full health, this means zero dmg for 10 seconds and 0 heals required, the healers can make sure everyone else in the group is fine whilst not having to worry about me for a full ten seconds. Now compare that with Holmgang. WAR pops it, his hp drops to 1 really quickly (if healers concentrate on the rest of the group) then the pressure to have him healed back up to a pretty high amount is still there for the healers. Its maybe 40% of a hallowed at best. Now if they would of left Inner Beast the way it was instead of the terrible nerf this wouldnt be such a problem. The one and only reason i still wont go back to my beloved WAR is simply the IB nerf. Now all WAR is, is a poor mans Pally. Such a shame.

Originally Posted by Marxam

That being said anyone else pissed off Berserk is now 90 sec cd? I lost my glorious Berserk + Internal Release combo D;

Berserk was ALWAYS 90 sec cd. you're remembering wrong. Your glorious Berserk + IR combo is apparently 30 seconds off.

Only played around with mine a little out and about. I'm missing the fact that Holmgang doesn't seem to bind and prevent the mob from turning anymore. Loved using that on Garuda and freezing her to the side after a Slipstream.

Originally Posted by Heroicbandit

My only complaint is how clunky it feels to combo Storm's Path, then combo Storm's Eye. Threat is even less of an issue now to really maintain the BB combo but it feels rather silly to Maim and Maim 2 global CDs later. Seems like Path should have been changed to do less damage but trigger Storm's Eye for a combo instead.

Agreed. Would rather it be a 3-part combo instead of two separate 2-part combos.

Originally Posted by Zoomie

Lastly, even mentioning HM garuda in this thread is pointless.

I mentioned garuda to illustrate what's the meaning of Off tanking to me. Because I see no example of off tanking in end game raids, that was ... you know... my point... but you can't understand what I say it seems.

Again, I really wish WAR/PLD becomes the standard for end game, but I don't mistake my wishes for established facts.
Wait and see.

Originally Posted by Heroicbandit

My only complaint is how clunky it feels to combo Storm's Path, then combo Storm's Eye. Threat is even less of an issue now to really maintain the BB combo but it feels rather silly to Maim and Maim 2 global CDs later. Seems like Path should have been changed to do less damage but trigger Storm's Eye for a combo instead.

I missed this in my first post but that's a very good point.