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  1. #211
    Player
    Marius's Avatar
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    Aku Mondlicht
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    It's just common sense to let people queue up together for the duty roulette. As the name suggests, the purpose of the roulette is not to benefit solo players. It is to reward players for challenging the random selection of an instance. That is what a roulette is all about. It has nothing to with being solo.

    I'm not going to say I know exactly how the Duty Roulette system works, but it does benefit solo players. Many times I have joined as a healer or tank I have gotten much lower dungeons from people that have selected the dungeon for the first time as they needed to get it done via story or early primal fights. It doesn't always just throw everyone into a random dungeon. Sometimes you fill spots for people that queued for specific things.
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  2. #212
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    Wildsprite's Avatar
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    Moonfrost Hailstorm
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    I'm all for the idea of premade parties for DF roulette, but I think they should be seperate,
    8 man (full party roulette) should be everything you have that is an 8 man(ofcourse limited by what everyone has unlocked)
    4 man roulette should be pretty much everything you have unlocked that is 4 man including guildheists
    2 man should be seperate with slightly reduced rewards

    that would be 3 new categories for DF roulette

    these are my opinion, I kinda feel they should have been there to start with the first 2 only giving the reward of being able to hit random dungeons/trials/raids with your friends
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 03-24-2014 at 04:33 PM.

  3. #213
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    Akirakogami's Avatar
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    Akira Pink
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Feilina View Post
    Is it really a problem not to use the roulette?

    You simply got one more option, the others stay as they are. When i play with two of my friends and we have two tanks/healer we can't join DF to get a random player we have to find a fourth one to be able to enter. We adapt, what is it you are doing?
    Is it a problem to miss out on MASSIVE bonuses of exp and tomes? yes obviously it is.
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  4. #214
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    Ceons's Avatar
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    Ceons Asmeia
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 54
    I am sad they pushed this back until 2.3 or later. I hope maybe they can hotfix it in sooner.

    I like to play together with my bf or rl friend or sister and when I can't I sometimes do play through normal df but then progress is much slower. I don't like to be punished for wanting to play with my friends. So between choosing to play together with a small incentive as a reward or alone with a better reward most of the time I end up not playing because it's a sucky choice.

    Anyway, please add this sooner! This was the thing I was looking forward to the most about this update. Very very sad it's not in
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  5. #215
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    Hyouretsuzan's Avatar
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    Hyouretsuzan Vlondett
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 90
    To be honest with you, I never considered this an issue. Me and my bf play on a daily basis with no concern on roulette. When we do roulette we just say " k, gonna do my solo ques now" and we pretty much say "ok cool" we want our bonus gil and seals, haha. We have plenty of other thing we do together. Like treasure hunting, primal runs, dungeons to tome cap. It's just one random dungeon we can't do together. Not a big deal really.
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  6. #216
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    Sensyon's Avatar
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    Sensyon Summersend
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Just so I understand the argument here. The OT (and a fair bit of other players/couples) want the incentives offered to you by helping out less experienced players without actually helping anyone but themselves and there significant others/friends. And the main argument for it is that this is a social game designed to play with others, not alone (by definition of being an MMO with systems and instances designed almost specifically for group play, with many additional, but less significant, solo activities). So, if you solo the roulettes, do you not still play with others in the same social setting (the game)?
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  7. #217
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    Sensyon's Avatar
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    Sensyon Summersend
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I'm actually for doing it with a friend, btw. I'm not against the idea, and I think they said they were going to add it soon in a nother update. I just think that Square was trying to accomplish something specific with the bonus rewards system, and maybe some of you guys don't get it or don't care. The competitveness of endgame DOES make it a big deal to lose out on the Roulette bonuses, which is what the incentive is. If you want to always play with your SO/friends, you always have that option. It's a choice you have to make, not so much a problem that needs fixing.
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  8. #218
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    Muneonna Aoyama
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    I see it like this...

    No, it's not a big deal to play one dungeon away from your significant other.

    However, some of us only do one dungeon a day due to lack of interest in doing the same 10 dungeons over and over. Furthermore, if two people start separate dungeons at the same time, there is no guarantee that both will end at the same time. This isn't exactly frustrating, but it can be disheartening when the other takes 30+ minutes more to finish because of inexperienced players / quitters.

    Just as you guys claim that the OP is overattached and "Can't break away from each other for one dungeon", I can call you zealots for a silly cause. Just let them play together. One way or the other, it's not going to bug you.

    As an added note... I would imagine most couples play Tank/Healer. So new people queuing as DD have nothing but gain from this.
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  9. #219
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    Fuyuu Valeureux
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    A soon as someone use the word Roulette, a huge tsunami of drama is flowing in no time.

    seriously, and I include myself in saying this: Let it go guys...

    Roulette will always be a huge drama magnet, it involves playing with strangers, which requires everyone to adapt to any kind of player and deal with it any way they can. Whatever how they deal with it, it's all right, even saying non-sense about roulette in these forum. As long as SE is bright enough to not take any of those seriously.

    Since you can't control how strangers (or anyone) behave, there's only 1 solution to all these non-sense threads such as "stop speed run" "not a good dungeon so the tank left" "solutions to slower dungeons": The only 1 solution is to delete the DF and Roulette and use PF only.

    Do you really want that?!

    If that's what you want, just don't use Roulette and DF, we don't have to suffer for your little wishes.
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  10. #220
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    Yikari Daebreak
    World
    Sephirot
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Funny how some people see this as "You just want to screw over new players/solo players!"

    Me, I see it as "-I- (and my sister, who I quest and level up with) get screwed over from the rewards."

    The thing I find annoying about "having" to solo q for the roulette (We decided not to bother, for reasons bellow) is that this means not only will one of us get in quicker and possibility finish quicker, but if we also end up in different dungeons one of us could earn more trash mob exp, and that gets our exp out of whack. A minor annoyance, but still an annoyance.

    And the game already forces people in a party to break party all the time while leveling as is.

    I somehow doubt there is that many groups of 4 players composed of 2 dps 1 tank and 1 healer always leveling together in enough numbers to cause solo players an issue.
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    You must show no mercy-
    Nor have any belief whatsoever in how others judge you-
    For your greatness will silence them all! -Warrior Wisdom

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