Couples geting the shaft on duty roulette

[LordSliver]

I'm not sure what sickens me more. How many instances there are of this game excluding group play with friends or the number of people ready to jump to Square-Enix's defense over such poor planning.

Not jumping to Square-Enix defense, we are saying how the feature is suppose to work. It is suppose to force you to play with randoms and you get rewards for doing so if you complete it. The roulette just makes you play by yourself so you can get thrown into a group that is a party of 3. It also helps groups that are not a full party for said dungeon.

[illuminapanic]

I'm not sure what sickens me more. How many instances there are of this game excluding group play with friends or the number of people ready to jump to Square-Enix's defense over such poor planning.

Can you please list the number of instances that exclude group play with friends?

[Kayumi]

Not jumping to Square-Enix defense, we are saying how the feature is suppose to work. It is suppose to force you to play with randoms and you get rewards for doing so if you complete it.

Except you're wrong.

The development team actually had the idea to allow players to queue up for the Duty Roulette as a party since the planning stages of this feature

[XiaoliVorgan]

I also play with my SO, it would be nice to be able to get the bonus together but it's solo so we just don't do it. We do some dungeons, alot of 8 man treasure maps and make the cap mostly by Wednesday. This thread is crazy though, you should be more careful about what you post. As someone mentioned, its easy for people to just respond in any old fashion due to the fact fists can't transfer through monitors. You should expect people to be less than civil when replying. There is some sort of e-cookie people think they will obtain by being witty and rude.

With some of the replies in this thread, its no surprise that people don't want to play with randoms and would rather go with people they know. I suppose the name for it is even more perfect, even though it's referring to the dungeons. Roulette.

[WHS]

I think selfishly I am all for the system making it so you can build a full party and roulette as friends. So that part is not hard for me. But the issue of why roulette was created in the first place is not quite the same. Originally it was designed so that a person needing a party in a low level dungeon could queue that dungeon and then the roulette system would build them a party. I know they could queue before or build one via pf or shout. It's just for some it wasn't quite that easy and that is why I believe they came up with this system. To go to a "I can build a party of 4 friends and roulette random content" is not quite supportive of this feature or idea originally created. I do like the change just don't think it will help as much as it once did once implemented. Something to consider for sure.

[Sessurea]

Why limit the discussion to just partner? it can be irl friend, in-game friend, anything!

Everyday we wanna do all the roulettes, which is like 90-120 minutes excluding queue times? For some people that's all the time they have to play, so why not create a system where 2 people can queue for roulette? At least that way, there is still the chance you get put with newbies who need help and guidance, which if I have it right, is the reason roulette is even there. Lets face it, most dungeons with total strangers aren't exactly social paradise except those few times you meet really nice people. " are you on my server? no? aww xc".

Really, why argue against this? Don't care? fine. But to argue against this is idiotic. Even more so now that its actually been confirmed.

[CYoung187]

2.3 seriously? Also this isn't about couples only. The daily roulette could be an opportunity to do something with your friends once a day. It's morpg after all. Yes sure we can just do a normal dungeon run with our friends and not get the bonus.

The point is, people want to play together and by implementing the duty roulette SE -practially- has taken away the opportunity to play together with your friends on a regular basis. The fact is, these days people only do one highlv dungeon a day max (highlv roulette). There is little to no reason to do any more than that. Nobody or very few are willing to gimp their myth income by not doing the roulette and playing with your buddies instead.

The roulette could be the exact opposite: an opportunity to do stuff together at least once a day. I'm tired of playing alone and with strangers.

Actually it is an MMORPG. Massive multiplayer, not you and a couple buddies multiplayer. There is literally nothing being taken away from you. Your friends can still play on a regular basis, can still play any dungeon. Are you really saying that because you dont get a few extra tome bonus, you don't want to play with your friends anymore? It will be funny if SE implements smaller bonuses for each party member you sign up with, just so we can see the same people coming on here pouting because they are getting enough "reward" for playing a game. Then we will get to hear these stories about everything they are taking away from you and how wronged you have been.

The argument that couples/groups can't use the roulette function of duty roulette (random dungeons/instances) makes sense, being upset that you don't get the same rewards is just whining. Best part of roulette for me is not knowing what you are going to get, not OMG EASY TOME SPEED RUN

[KraggyKor]

Looking forward to FC runs!

Terrible idea, it will make queues ever worse. Seems SE want to kill off non-FC content altogether.

[KraggyKor]

Actually it is an MMORPG. Massive multiplayer, not you and a couple buddies multiplayer. There is literally nothing being taken away from you. Your friends can still play on a regular basis, can still play any dungeon. Are you really saying that because you dont get a few extra tome bonus, you don't want to play with your friends anymore?

Totally agree.

[Kayumi]

Are you really saying that because you dont get a few extra tome bonus, you don't want to play with your friends anymore?

Way not to read what I said. I am talking from a practical viewpoint i.e. empiric. It's simply what I have observed. Before roulette people (read: friends, couples etc) used to run dungeons together much more frequently. That is: farming together. They had the goal of obtaining their philo/myth so they teamed up and had a good time.

These days however with the roulette it is far more efficient to just do the solo daily high-lv roulette. Even if you don't do any other content that gives myth, simply doing the daily highlv roulette will get you capped. And this is exactly what people do: daily roulette and be done with it. The days of teaming up with your buddies/FC mates etc to farm philo/myth are -practically- (read: in actuality) over. Again, empiric statement.

You can talk all you want about SE not taking anything away but you are ignoring how human psychology works, people tend to take the path of least resistance. Yes I do want to run dungeons with people I know and I take every opportunity to do so (mostly running lowlv dungeons) but with the way things are, and heres the central argument: there simply is little to no reason to do so and it's also less efficient.