Couples geting the shaft on duty roulette

[RobertColt]

In response to all the haters, I too play with my girlfriend and I do the duty finder solo on an off class we aren't doing together. However! EVERY time I do duty finder, MAYBE 1 or 2 people are there for content, the rest are packing +1 (sorry zenith) relic weapons and are clearly there from roulette as well. This means that having a party allowed to roulette would change NOTHING except the fact that someone has to deal with someone elses relic +1 people. I sincerely doubt that duties will all fail to continue in a timely basis just because someone rouletted with only one slot open.

Side note, I would be doing more roulette missions with my party which would mean more people who can't party would be getting more opportunities to get a mission going than if I had to break off for one random alone. Without roulette I am specific in my dungeon selection which ultimately limits who I can help.

[Michelasso]

In response to all the haters, I too play with my girlfriend and I do the duty finder solo on an off class we aren't doing together. However! EVERY time I do duty finder, MAYBE 1 or 2 people are there for content, the rest are packing +1 (sorry zenith) relic weapons and are clearly there from roulette as well.

Even if it is only ONE person, usually a DPS, that person benefits from not waiting 2hours to join a bleeding DF. I had to build a WHM lvl 50 as a second class to finally play dungeons. Actually with the roulette they also benefits from getting highly geared experienced people, which wasn't the case before. It's a win-win situation for all but the complainers.

This means that having a party allowed to roulette would change NOTHING except the fact that someone has to deal with someone elses relic +1 people. I sincerely doubt that duties will all fail to continue in a timely basis just because someone rouletted with only one slot open.

No, it changes everything. It is much faster to allocate single slots than double slots. You two can be needed in two different DF, while together you might be unnecessary. It's called statistics. The idea of the DR is to reduce the DF waiting time. Allowing parties in that would spoil it.

[Urielparadox]

Its a once a day bonus that sometimes isn't even worth every time I get put in a dungeon 10 levels or more lower then it is a huge time sink for me I get about 90-110k form a dungeon 10 levels under and 200k-300 for a dungeon my level. after that one time using df roulette is pointless. The point of DF roulette is to get you to stop playing with others for 1 dungeon. Is that really to hard? no. Does it lock you out of anything? not realy since your already halfway to a full group unless your double dps you probably have a 5min wait time where now my wait times are cut in half as a dps but still take 15 min. Also you can control your group and make sure you can beat the dungeon fast. I'm at the whims of random people and whether or not they listen. If y'all can take down 2 dungeons in 1hr 45min hours and it takes me 3 with the wait times and 1 good : 1 bad group. Look now you have made more xp then I have using df roulette.
If you could that would be a huge advantage to you and I would never run without another person just so I know I can trust one person which discourages soloing and df roulette is meant to fill a group, CF is meant to start one..

Please stop relying on each other so much in game, 90% of the time one of the ppl in the couple is hardcore carrying the couple and then when raid times come your FC have to say yes we need you. So we will take them but them is now screwing up and causing the loss, making you essentially equal to a bad player. Let your spouse play without you so you can't be there to pick up their slack.

[PetiteMalFleur]

This whole thread makes me lawl. Thank you for the entertainment. OP just keep playing the way you have been. If you're all about efficiency the speed runs to cap are better anyway. Now if you say you can't find a static group for speed runs because they are all capping in the roulette now I'll have to call you a liar.

[frostmagemari]

First, i'll say that i agree with the OP, as with the schedules me and my SO have, our time to actually do something together is very limited so while we're in game, i would much rather play alongside her instead of having to play solo because of end-game efficiency.

Second.. the Duty-Roulette for almost any level will only really be helped by Tanks and/or healers using the DFR as DPS classes are a dime a dozen throughout the leveling spectrum; I seriously doubt that people going to Satasha or Brayflox will be saying to themselves "I really hope we get one more DPS, there's not enough of them around!", and if it's a worry that a high level character/duo/trio will take spots away from lower level characters that should go in their first, there are systems that can be put into place to match similar iLvl first.

And if a high level Tank and DPS join the DFR then that means a healer and a dps will get a group, but if that same tank and healer say "meh" to the DFR because they can't play with their friends, that leaves those same two lower levels that would have been helped by the higher characters waiting for two separate people to join and run the dungeon with.

The fact is, the more people and or/groups that are willing to use the DFR (whether group or solo) means that there will be more people helped in the long run, even if you're not helping three people out at once.

Third.. I really think that a lot of this community has "battered wife" syndrome. Every stupid 'feature' that SQE puts in -has- to have a reason, they're good and responsible developers, really; We're only upset about the forced solo content because we don't know what it means to play properly, if we just listen to the Devs, we'll be okay...

Edit: Honestly though, i think that DFR just showcases that it was a stupid decision on square's part to make the dungeons a forced part of the main story.

[Vactus]

If you have limited time to play and it's with your SO, why chance a fail DFR or one that takes forever to complete. That isn't efficient at all. And it's a daily bonus not twice a day.

Do you only play with your SO? Are there not at least a few people online willing to run WP or AK? If you're way over geared for quick HM runs that is still better than relying on a daily DFR bonus.

[Vactus]

Because I can't edit from my phone :-/

DFR was stated from the beginning to be for solo queue, why is this just now an issue?

[Grembo]

In 8 man content it's been a long long time since a duty has popped and I come across 5 - 6 players that have never done the instance before.

[Despite]

I agree. Should be able to queue with at least one other players for duty roulette. As it is I simply don't queue. Which is silly.

[RobertColt]

Actually with the roulette they also benefits from getting highly geared experienced people, which wasn't the case before. It's a win-win situation for all but the complainers.

In response to that I say this, because of the fact that we can't queue together in the roulette we don't queue at all individually. Why bother if we can enjoy the game together? This means that the roulette now loses 2 potential people. And as I mentioned we do queue for lower level missions to level alts but we do specific ones so that it isn't a waste in regards to gear drops. If we could queue together we would go into the area that needed us.

Personally I'm fine without the roulette. I can get everything out of the game I want without it. But if the option was there for parties of <4 to queue, it would be utilized more by my friends regardless of incentive. And that is a fact you cannot deny.