All of the summoner threads seem to be trailing off into the same argument. The fact is, end of the day it is a ~10% nerf. And as myself and many others have said repeatedly it was needed. I think the general consensus is that losing thunder has made the game play of the SMN easier. I am still curious what our actual rotation will end up being. Miasma II doesn't seem worth it to me. We will see when some of the theory crafters get some solid numbers.