Thread: SMN - 2.1 Live

I am suffering from my muscle memory as well as from the lack of visual ques.

Had a Macro that went BioII, Bio, (pause can be used for various things), Miama, Fester, Thunder. After that I would switch to manual input. But somehow I keep waiting for the thunder animation, and just stand there idly for a moment before I remember it is gone, haha.

Still trying to find a way to incorporate BlizzardII in my rotation....
I use MiasmaII, but only because it is instant and I can immediately run off again. I'm too used to being a ranged DPS, and not really keen on spending more time in the fray (>.<)

Originally Posted by Eulogee

All of the summoner threads seem to be trailing off into the same argument. The fact is, end of the day it is a ~10% nerf. And as myself and many others have said repeatedly it was needed. I think the general consensus is that losing thunder has made the game play of the SMN easier. I am still curious what our actual rotation will end up being. Miasma II doesn't seem worth it to me. We will see when some of the theory crafters get some solid numbers.

On a single target, Miasma II when used with Contagion, is 40 potency better (on a full DoT duration) than a single Ruin, which is what you would logically do instead. If you are near whatever you are fighting, and are about to contagion, there is no reason not throw out a Miasma 2 instead of a Ruin. But, if you have more than 1.4 seconds of re-positioning to do in order to land a Miasma II, it becomes a DPS loss. Unless of course you do something like a Ruin II while re-positioning, then you're ok.

Thunder removal... Fine. I still hate it.

Pets still near goddamn useless. Running about 40-60 dps or something. I dunno. Contagion the only useful skill; synergy between SMN and pet. Titan good for solo. Ifrit for PvP somewhat; too slow on response times.

SMN back in FFXI was great. Even though there was a ton of stuff to manage at first, I felt I was a Summoner calling upon a legendary whatever. Here, it's... just... some sort of decoration that sometimes annoys the enemy if they get annoyed at all.

They may as well remake this class and change it from Summoner to a class that specializes in DoTs. A Summoner trying to manage DoTs instead of the beast they summon? Logic.