Enmity no longer an issue.

[IfritReborn]

I've tried stealing enmity as white mage, simply couldn't... Divine Seal, Regen, Medica II, Medica, I AoE healed all I wanted in trials without the bar even becoming yellow.

Am I the only one disappointed with this?

Except for the fact if a tank isn't as geared as say the healer or dps, the tank can ONLY manage to hold on to threat (and by that I mean barely) by doing the enmity combo over and over, having to ignore other combos that may give out buffs and debuffs
That's not good game design

[Ri_ri]

Except for the fact if a tank isn't as geared as say the healer or dps, the tank can ONLY manage to hold on to threat (and by that I mean barely) by doing the enmity combo over and over, having to ignore other combos that may give out buffs and debuffs
That's not good game design

Bad design is forcing people with level 55 weapons play the same dungeon as people with relics. Having people watching their damage/over healing is good design.

We need some connection between the people playing, which was what enmity meters gave us. Holding back on damage to not grab aggro, catching on when you can AoE, when you can't, when you can just focus on one mob because the other party members are attacking that one...
All those little things that made you feel like you're playing with other people with different play styles and skills.

Now? Just AoE everything. Almost like.... WoW.

[Sunah]

We need some connection between the people playing, which was what enmity meters gave us. Holding back on damage to not grab aggro, catching on when you can AoE, when you can't, when you can just focus on one mob because the other party members are attacking that one...
All those little things that made you feel like you're playing with other people with different play styles and skills.

The thing about this is.... DPS does not and WILL not care about the meters. YES some good players out there will hold back. But the majority of players will go balls to the wall as son as a shield lob goes out. This is just common fact and the increase in enmity is a well deserved change.

[Ri_ri]

The thing about this is.... DPS does not and WILL not care about the meters. YES some good players out there will hold back. But the majority of players will go balls to the wall as son as a shield lob goes out. This is just common fact and the increase in enmity is a well deserved change.

I've not had any problems with it. Most people don't like monsters hitting them.

DDs already have very light shoulders, I don't see benefit of making it even easier for them.

I can understand it being hard on white mages, but just lower some enmity from their heals, then. No need to make a huge part of group playing almost ignorable.

[Naelle]

As a tank (warrior and paladin) that has never had enmity issues I like this change. I get to do something other than spam RoH or BY now. It's especially awesome with warrior as I can now use all of my skills without having to BB twice in between each other combo.

[Sucidaldeathtar]

I was telling fc lastnight while doing coil enimty is to much now. I don't even have to hold back from nuking. It's getting to the point of to dumbed down pretty soon.

SE some people weren't meant to play this game stop dumbing it down. I left ff11 cause of this....

[OPneedNerfs]

I was telling fc lastnight while doing coil enimty is to much now. I don't even have to hold back from nuking. It's getting to the point of to dumbed down pretty soon.

SE some people weren't meant to play this game stop dumbing it down. I left ff11 cause of this....

Lifting your finger off the button is soooooooo hard. Qq moar.

[BlueMage]

Bad design is forcing people with level 55 weapons play the same dungeon as people with relics. Having people watching their damage/over healing is good design.

We need some connection between the people playing, which was what enmity meters gave us. Holding back on damage to not grab aggro, catching on when you can AoE, when you can't, when you can just focus on one mob because the other party members are attacking that one...

I completely agree with you, but unfortunately people only work that way in theory. In reality, the i90 geared healer spamming Holy and Medica II or i90 BLM spamming Flare will just blame the i50-60 geared tank (probably learning the dungeon for the first time) in WANDERER'S PALACE for being undergeared, cause jeez everyone knows WP Dungeon Finder is for relic/coil gear onry.

Have you ever tried marking targets in a party (1, 2, 3, kill order) and get relic DDs to actually attack 1, instead of one of them bursting as hard as they can on 3 and the other bursting as hard as they can on 2, while 1 is untouched? I main DRG/BLM, and I follow kill orders if a tank sets them, so I know DDs can not be a-holes but the overwhelming majority of DDs I see have no concept of cooperation or responsibility or apparently even how to count.

Even if they got rid of gear imbalance by making gear sync to the ilevel of the dungeon post-50 (for example, your gear is synced down to i60 for WP/AK, which are both dungeons designed for i50 and drop i55 gear, so you'd still technically be overgeared, just not as dramatically) it wouldn't fix people being dumb, or asses, or both.

[Gamemako]

Except for the fact if a tank isn't as geared as say the healer or dps, the tank can ONLY manage to hold on to threat (and by that I mean barely) by doing the enmity combo over and over, having to ignore other combos that may give out buffs and debuffs
That's not good game design

That's not true. WAR max enmity generation is SE/BB/BB anyway; there was no reason to every drop Maim from your rolls. I could hold aggro on ilvl90 MNK and SMN at the same time while wearing ilvl55 gear. Gearing just made everything fluff. I can see adjusting it upward slightly to account especially for the need for Storm's Path, but it seems that this is a bit overboard.

The thing about this is.... DPS does not and WILL not care about the meters. YES some good players out there will hold back. But the majority of players will go balls to the wall as son as a shield lob goes out.

It's the tank's job to make that possible, and any tank could manage in 2.0. Only exception is when the tank needs to move the opponent from the starting point, and that's something an enmity boost won't help because the tank isn't attacking for the duration.