Monk rotation now?

[EasymodeX]

so basically this is the most sensible cycle right now?

Well, I only spent 20 minutes poking at various approaches, but that seems like a "winner for now" -- honestly not much different than a pre-2.1 approach. On the side, there's actually another significantly more convoluted timing for TD/FR that gets +0.1 more PPS, but it's not even worth typing.

TD has a duration of 30 sec, so you need to refresh it ever 5 cycles if you just try to keep TD up. You calculated it for every 6 cycles, but what happens if you do so ever 5 cycles? What is better: Alternating with FR every 3 cycles or just sticking to keeping TD up every 5 cycles?

If you use TD every time it drops immediately, and you only use 1 off-cycle attack (FR) for DK-cycles (2 sets) -- in other words, for DK-cycles where you DON'T use TD, you use FR instead, then you can gain the +0.1 more PPS. #notworth.

This basically requires that you track how many attacks you are using within a DK cycle, and you can't just use the off-cycle attack at the same time in the cycle (e.g. "right before DK") -- you need to stagger it earlier and earlier until you get a TD span overlap that allows a FR, and then you need to make sure you don't use 2 off-cycle attacks between DKs. It's kind of only reasonable on paper.


As a general note, since Bootshine and True are "often" (always) intended to be used every other set now, instead of "when the fight is stable for some minor +DPS", this creates a more sensitive risk for DK/TW buff uptime re: mechanics. As a result, it's worth considering dropping FR and only using TD for fights with lots of mechanics or where you're not comfortable with achieving 100% contact time, because if you inject FRs around then you may drop DK/TW here and there, which removes any purpose for blowing the TP on Fractures.

[Allyrion]

This results in 162.9. Gained a lot for that optimization and increased TP/s? ... >_<.

That seems really insignificant, lol.
I'm surprised since it's still a fairly strong attack, though Bootshine is already higher and the other two dots are way ahead.

[Aramaki]

DK TW DM TD
BS TR SP
DK TW SP FR
BS TR DM
DK TW SP TD
BS TR SP
DK TW DM FR
BS TR SP
DK TW SP TD
BS TR DM
DK TW SP FR
BS TR SP

What are all these abbreviations?
Just got to 50 and trying to compare what the skills are (haven't played much much or bothered with a proper rotation before, just lazy leveling through daily roulette).

DK is Dragon Kick, BS is Bootshine, DM is Demolish I'm guessing, but that's as far as I can make out of it being a new monk/pugi and all.

[enil]

DK TW DM TD
BS TR SP
DK TW SP FR
BS TR DM
DK TW SP TD
BS TR SP
DK TW DM FR
BS TR SP
DK TW SP TD
BS TR DM
DK TW SP FR
BS TR SP

What are all these abbreviations?
Just got to 50 and trying to compare what the skills are (haven't played much much or bothered with a proper rotation before, just lazy leveling through daily roulette).

DK is Dragon Kick, BS is Bootshine, DM is Demolish I'm guessing, but that's as far as I can make out of it being a new monk/pugi and all.

TW = Twin Snakes
TR = True Strike
TD = Touch of Death
FR = Fracture
SP = Snap Punch

I would not follow that "rotation" though. There's not reason to reapply TD before it expires, or always use it after a finisher when you can slot it anywhere. Fracture is a really minor DPS gain and a dps loss when TP is an issue and don't dot blindlessly when there's invulrenable periods or similar.

[Powercow]

Fracture is a DPS loss post-patch.

How do you figure? It's still as strong as the crit bootshine with about 15.3% crit (which is not really that hard to get) and it still beats out Dragon Kick, Twin Snakes, Snap Punch and the buffed True Strike in terms of damage/use.

In a longer fight it's too expensive TP-wise, but how is that any different from 2.0? You still didn't use it when TP was a concern.

Edit - Unless you meant Impulse Drive. And yeah ID sucks now.

[Wingszerodrive]

How do you figure? It's still as strong as the crit bootshine with about 15.3% crit (which is not really that hard to get) and it still beats out Dragon Kick, Twin Snakes, Snap Punch and the buffed True Strike in terms of damage/use.

In a longer fight it's too expensive TP-wise, but how is that any different from 2.0? You still didn't use it when TP was a concern.

Edit - Unless you meant Impulse Drive. And yeah ID sucks now.

yea i usually skip fracture now due to tp long fights.... but i usually apply it in the begining and when i have the 3 GL or when i have to move for a period i know i will lose GL

[Estellios]

Fracture is a DPS loss post-patch.

Good cause I hate trying to work it in and I can never tell when the animation goes off lol

nothing really changed for me except i have to remember to use demolish from behind

i feel bad for those monks who only did the side rotation, it'll take a while for them to get used to the changes

This keeps tripping me up. I didn't only do the side rotation but I have to keep reminding myself to move for Demolish.

[Zartan]

That's what she said.

[hamsteak]

nothing really changed for me except i have to remember to use demolish from behind

i feel bad for those monks who only did the side rotation, it'll take a while for them to get used to the changes

[Butcherb0y]

Ok ok so 2.1 version of mnk rotation set us still the same, with the exception of dropping FRACTURE!. Why is that? Would it make it more easy to keep DK AND SNAKE BUFF UP?