Butcher's Block... worthless.

[Gamemako]

So if you are a tank that does everything right, but you have a GC ilvl 50 weapon and they have relic +1 and pull agro, you're a bad tank?
Blanket statements are bad.

Actually, I did (not could do, did) that frequently -- I used an ilvl55 GC weapon against full +1 DPS and held aggro just fine. If you couldn't, it's because you're bad.

[Leiron]

Actually, I did (not could do, did) that frequently -- I used an ilvl55 GC weapon against full +1 DPS and held aggro just fine. If you couldn't, it's because you're bad.

Cool, and I did too, and was playing with a Bard, a BLM and WHM and my experience was entirely the opposite. Agro was a struggle to maintain unless they intentionally throttled their DPS.

If your DPS couldn't pull agro, its because they are bad, or they pitied you and held back.

The bat swings both ways.

[Dhex]

I honestly don't see the problem.

Is tanking any less fun because of these changes? Nothing has really changed for Paladin, and Warrior now has more buffs to keep an eye on and more combos to commit to muscle memory. If your DPS/Healer roles had learnt to pay attention to their enmity meter in 2.0 you never had any threat issues then - now they can open up a bit more without having to baby the tank's threat generation as much.

Basically; "I dislike the new synergy and pacing of combat because certain meta-game aspects required everyone to sit and watch a meter to pace themselves off my threat generation and now they don't need to watch that meter as much because I can generate threat more quickly than before." To which I just don't really have anything to say but.. uh sorry I guess? :/

[Calib0s]

People view enmity as trivial in 2.0 when they were overgeared with 150 hours of practice grabbing every opponent and putting exactly the right amount of enmity on each to hold it, just like people who talk about how loleasy Twintania is when it was previously thought nearly impossible.

Actually, I did (not could do, did) that frequently -- I used an ilvl55 GC weapon against full +1 DPS and held aggro just fine. If you couldn't, it's because you're bad.

Which is it?