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    Paikis Pryslack
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 73

    Butcher's Block... worthless.

    Threat is so ridiculously easy mode now that I don't even have to use Butcher's Block anymore. Just ran AK with 2 (mostly) full i90 DPS and only had to use BB once on each boss. Trash got 2 Overpowers and then SE/SP combos to hold them.

    This game just got a whole lot more boring
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    Verne Frostwhisper
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I think the game got more fun. I can now focus on staying alive instead of fighting against my own team mates.
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    Haeen Kazerith
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Why wouldn't you use BB?
    It your hardest hitting combo, and its not like SE needed to be maintained 100% anyway.
    Let alone you act like its a big deal.
    Good tanks wouldn't lose threat anyway.
    Now instead of spamming 2 combos, you can spam 3 as needed.
    You got variety, so who cares?
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    Radstar Hicks
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    Just ran AK ...This game just got a whole lot more boring
    How about you Try something new?
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    Aladdin Sane
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    You only used your highest damage combo once? Good job maximising DPS.
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Coeurl
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan061111 View Post
    You only used your highest damage combo once? Good job maximising DPS.
    SE lasts no more than 2 combos (without high skill speed, it drops the third hit on the second combo). If you want to maximize DPS while minimizing incoming damage, you have alternate SE and SP combos. Using BB combo gains you 20 potency and loses twice that from the expiration of the SE bonus on reapplication.
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    A little bit of an enmity boost to account for the fact that we shouldn't be able to maintain both SE & SP while tanking .. fine, but this is just stupid.
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    Haeen Kazerith
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Well...typically you'd be doing

    BB~>SP~>SE>BB>SP>SE

    Where as in the past it was BB>BB>SE
    So now we're using half a many BB's like before.
    So it makes sense to account for it, especially with the way DPS scales.
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    Well...typically you'd be doing

    BB~>SP~>SE>BB>SP>SE

    Where as in the past it was BB>BB>SE
    So now we're using half a many BB's like before.
    So it makes sense to account for it, especially with the way DPS scales.
    BB>BB>SP generates more threat and is what it should be based off of. The fact you can BB>SP>SE and still hold threat over equally geared DPS is dumb, it removes any choice from the rotation.
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    Haeen Kazerith
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    That is a false arguemnt.
    More enmity means more breathing room, means you can do more that you weren't able to in the past.
    BB>BB>SE.
    That was ALL a WAR ever did for Enmity.
    You never had a choice in the past, so to even suggest there was a choice in the first place is false.

    Secondly, BBs till has a purpose. You are still using it for maintaining enmity, so it still has its place.

    Literally nothing changed.
    So the complaints don't have any basis to them.

    "Tanking is boring now"
    It wasn't boring before?
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