One to Fifty, One Zone - Long OP

[Perrin_Aybarra]

There was no drama for 1100 posts, please read the OP + links. This issue was discussed, commented by the reps and even Yoshi-P agrees with this issue of bland copy/pasted zones with no sense of progression.

It's not just about monster placement, its how within one zone that looks exactly the same everywhere you can level to max. Sure you can choose to go to another zone since there is no specific place to go but the issue remains.

Yoshi knows about this and this is why he confirmed that zones will be redesigned to have 2-3 themes per zones.

So instead of having Central Shroud, Western Shroud, Eastern Shroud that looks all the same, you'll have 3 different looking sub-zones. Sure you'll be able to level from 1-50 in the black shroud if you want, but the sub-zones will make it so you don't feel like you've been in the same exact place forever.

This is in short what it is. Please cut the drama, this thread was doing fine without it.

Edit: Plus there is nothing more to discuss really since Yoshi-P agrees and the drawings for the redesigned maps are done and they are currently modeling them according to an interview in Famitsu magazine.

Here is a bit of it in case you don't want to look for it, translated by Reinheart:

改良マップのひな型もできてるらしいぞ
神ゲーはじまったな
Draft for the remodeled map is made
God game gonna start (Kami-ge Godly/Good/Awesome game)
一マップに2つ3つのランドマークを置くらしいぜ
One map will have 2-3 land marks
──マップを大規模改修中とのことですが、具体的にはどのような変更が行われるのでしょうか？
You said the map is having major remodeling changes, basically what kind of changes will be made?

吉田　すでに仕様は決まり、サンプルもできあがっているので、
後はレベルデザインを煮詰め、その後物量をこなすという状態です。
コンセプトとしては一度足を踏み入れると忘れられない印象が残るように、
それぞれのエリアやゾーンにテーマを3つくらい入れていこうかと。目安ですが。
YoshiP: Specifications are already decided and sample is already made. Next need to get into level design and (...dunno how to translate this part basically making adjustments to them.)
From concept, it's type of area once you step in you wont forget. In each area/zone want to put around 3 themes

岩尾　ランドマークとして機能するようになります。
Iwao: It will act as a landmark

Case closed, now move on.

[stardrifter]

new looking zones is a must and Im happy about that but what about progression? If i can goto any of the new zones and lvl 1-50 it doesn;t solve the problem sure it makes things look better which I am happy about

[Exni]

So instead of having Central Shroud, Western Shroud, Eastern Shroud that looks all the same, you'll have 3 different looking sub-zones. Sure you'll be able to level from 1-50 in the black shroud if you want, but the sub-zones will make it so you don't feel like you've been in the same exact place forever.

^^ This. That change is all thats really needed regarding this. It'll be greeeaaaatt.. hopefully.

Drama is sometimes unavoidable with some of the ppl in these threads.. I stated my view on the OP's topic, then ppl want to create drama out of points that weren't even being discussed. Meh, can't do anything but move on like I said and /ignore the rabble if/when it continues.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

new looking zones is a must and Im happy about that but what about progression? If i can goto any of the new zones and lvl 1-50 it doesn;t solve the problem sure it makes things look better which I am happy about

Well isn't moving from sub-zones to sub-zones when you level up a sense of progression? It's just that you'll have a choice of 2-3 sub-zones to level (Thanalan, Shroud, La Nosca). Since each sub-zones within the big zone will have different themes associated to it, you'll feel like you are progression rather than being in the same place forever.

With adjustments to monster distributions, quests, leves and more story missions + grand company, I am sure we will have a feeling of progression when we level up.

[Avraym]

100% agree with OP. FFXIV Zones = Bland. Lots of dirt and grass and not a lot else glad to hear they are adding the themes soon.

[Tiberious]

I completely agree with this post 100%. XIV underwhelmed me every step of the way. Each time I knew I was going to to a new camp I expected some grand change in the landscape only to be disappointed. Even moving to new areas gave me only marginal satisfaction. Mor Dhona is OKAY but it's basically Thanalan copy-pasted, dark, and with crystals jutting out of the ground. Coerthas is charming and about the most different geography I've seen. But even there I was underwhelmed at my discovery of the new land.

XIV provided NOTHING in the way of level progression like XI did. Moving from ronfaure to valkurm dunes to jugner forest, over to Jeuno and batalla downs, yhoator jungle, and beyond gave us an amazingly unique experience. Through all of it's numerous flaws FFXI was and still is a fantastic MMO and Square has alot of work to make ARR provide that same level of satisfaction.

The level of work they put into after launch will depend on how much player support they receive. So I am willing to rally the troops and have everyone I can give it a try. But Square better deliver or this one is going to fall, and fall hard.

[KiriA500]

Oh cool, more necrobumping!