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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Bard was only nerfed in damage when using blood for blood and internal release. Since they give 10% each instead of 20% as before.
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    Belle Rose
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    To those of you stating that any bard that doesn't use songs is a bad bard: You obviously have never played bard or are just completely playing your job the wrong way. I have played bard since it was introduced back in 1.0 and when you look at the game as a whole, there are very few times where MP or TP songs are actually needed. In long primal battles or coil for example, but never in dungeon runs like AK or WP etc. If you are. Mage that depends on these songs to get through a dungeon, then you need to learn to conserve MP better. The only useful song outside of those long battles is Foe Requiem because it helps you beat the dungeon faster. So please, stop making claims you obviously know nothing about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starplayer View Post
    To those of you stating that any bard that doesn't use songs is a bad bard: You obviously have never played bard or are just completely playing your job the wrong way. I have played bard since it was introduced back in 1.0 and when you look at the game as a whole, there are very few times where MP or TP songs are actually needed. In long primal battles or coil for example, but never in dungeon runs like AK or WP etc. If you are. Mage that depends on these songs to get through a dungeon, then you need to learn to conserve MP better. The only useful song outside of those long battles is Foe Requiem because it helps you beat the dungeon faster. So please, stop making claims you obviously know nothing about
    I see a lot of bad bards that play ballad when not needed. All they're doing is hurting the overall group dps.

    Also, unless it was changed in 2.1, foe requiem only helps black mages and white mages (holy). Playing req any other time does nothing.
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I see a lot of bad bards that play ballad when not needed. All they're doing is hurting the overall group dps.

    Also, unless it was changed in 2.1, foe requiem only helps black mages and white mages (holy). Playing req any other time does nothing.
    BLM, WHM (all spells), SMN (all spells), and therefor also SCH (all spells). That's as of 2.0.
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Balancing the game due to bad players grouping up and doing it wrong is doing it wrong
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    Alia Carver
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    working as intended, keep in mind bard is a support class not a dps class.
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    Dyne Fellpool
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wreck View Post
    working as intended, keep in mind bard is a support class not a dps class.
    Ugh. I've come to realize that this misconception will NEVER die. It is just too ingrained in people, apparently.
    One more time though: THERE ARE NO PURE SUPPORT CLASSES IN FFXIV. This game isnt built that way.
    I know you're used to "Bard = support" on so many other games, and it SEEMS that way at first when you see Bards have songs that give MP/TP Regen, but I assure you they are still a DPS CLASS.
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    There isn't even a "Bard" damage nerf. It's a cross class skill nerf.
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    Dyne Fellpool
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    There isn't even a "Bard" damage nerf. It's a cross class skill nerf.
    Yeah they didnt really hit our dps very hard. Mainly just our burst potential.

    They DID nerf our Support capabilities though, by taking away our 10% dmg reduction and giving it to Warriors.
    Why did they nerf our Support? Because we are a DPS CLASS, and we had a bit too many "support" puzzle pieces. (I just wish they'd make RoD do something useful)
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    Well bad players will continue to cry, I guess.
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