Normal Mode & Hard Mode Dungeons?!

[Richard]

If "raids" consist of 8 man max parties this game will die faster than it is already. We can all understand they are catering to a casual playerbase here but limiting the interaction between whole linkshells is really piss poor. I want to raid with 15 or 16 of my linkshell friends not have to pick and choose each time I want to run a dungeon.

[kukurumei]

If "raids" consist of 8 man max parties this game will die faster than it is already. We can all understand they are catering to a casual playerbase here but limiting the interaction between whole linkshells is really piss poor. I want to raid with 15 or 16 of my linkshell friends not have to pick and choose each time I want to run a dungeon.

Depends...you're too into WoW. They are supposedly rethinking the claim system. Dungeons don't have to be about big raids...overworld is just as easy.

If dungeons becomes the stereotypical "event" content, a party is perfectly fine.

[viion]

If "raids" consist of 8 man max parties this game will die faster than it is already. We can all understand they are catering to a casual playerbase here but limiting the interaction between whole linkshells is really piss poor. I want to raid with 15 or 16 of my linkshell friends not have to pick and choose each time I want to run a dungeon.

Just split up into 2 groups? Im assuming here dungeons will be instanced.

[Radaghast]

Just split up into 2 groups? Im assuming here dungeons will be instanced.

He wants to play with them, not split up. The game is so anti-social as is, there's really no point right now to having more than 10-12 people in a linkshell to do anything if they play regularly. Most everyone is in their 8 man little cliques and it doesn't promote guild play AT ALL.

I don't have much hope though, Yoshi already stated he's into the small group play so it'll probably take them another 2 years to adjust their thinking.

[Rowyne]

If "raids" consist of 8 man max parties this game will die faster than it is already. We can all understand they are catering to a casual playerbase here but limiting the interaction between whole linkshells is really piss poor. I want to raid with 15 or 16 of my linkshell friends not have to pick and choose each time I want to run a dungeon.

15-man chaotic zerg fests? No, thanks. Behests are actually fun now that party sizes are smaller.

I'm glad that WoW stopped focusing on gigantic raids. Back in the 40-man days, it was a given that at least 5 people were asleep at the wheel. When it changed to 10/25 mans, 25-man raids were still easier than 10-mans. The difficulty may have been tweaked, but the truth is that you can still hide inside a 25-man group. In a 10-man raid, every person has to pull their weight.

I'd rather have 4-man and 8-man content.

[Joeking]

15 man chaotic zerg fests? No, thanks. Behests are actually fun now that party sizes are smaller.

I'm glad that WoW stopped focusing on gigantic raids. Back in the 40-man days, it was a given that at least 5 people were asleep at the wheel. When it changed to 10/25 mans, 25-man raids were still easier than 10-mans. The difficulty may have been tweaked, but the truth is that you can still hide inside a 25-man group. In a 10-man raid, every person has to pull their weight.

I'd rather have 4 man and 8 man content.

We just need Dps meters like Recount for WoW, so we can see peoples performance if isn't good.

Kicked.

[Rowyne]

We just need Dps meters like Recount for WoW, so we can see peoples performance if isn't good.
Kicked.

=P

/10char

[Krausus]

15-man chaotic zerg fests? No, thanks. Behests are actually fun now that party sizes are smaller.

I'm glad that WoW stopped focusing on gigantic raids. Back in the 40-man days, it was a given that at least 5 people were asleep at the wheel. When it changed to 10/25 mans, 25-man raids were still easier than 10-mans. The difficulty may have been tweaked, but the truth is that you can still hide inside a 25-man group. In a 10-man raid, every person has to pull their weight.

I'd rather have 4-man and 8-man content.

really? behests are fun now? they are not any harder then they where before, and now they net less rewards. 8 people does not a raid make. Im sure they could design 16 man content that isnt a zerg fest and dub it raid content, if you dont want to be a part of it then stick with the 8 man dungeon.

[Joeking]

If "raids" consist of 8 man max parties this game will die faster than it is already. We can all understand they are catering to a casual playerbase here but limiting the interaction between whole linkshells is really piss poor. I want to raid with 15 or 16 of my linkshell friends not have to pick and choose each time I want to run a dungeon.

Nah you only need 8, You, BFF, BF's(6), you can't possibly have more than 6 best friends.

[Ruri]

If "raids" consist of 8 man max parties this game will die faster than it is already. We can all understand they are catering to a casual playerbase here but limiting the interaction between whole linkshells is really piss poor. I want to raid with 15 or 16 of my linkshell friends not have to pick and choose each time I want to run a dungeon.

I am hoping for a dynamis like area with a max of 64 people in alliances.