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    Captaindownsyndrome's Avatar
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    whats best gear set up for a rank 50 gladiator

    whats best gear set up for a rank 50 gladiator simple enough what the best gear for tanking.
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    i use full iron plate set with tarred pants and mythril bracelets +1

    well i lie i used templar chain coif cuz its looks but it does add some HP to the mix so aint all that bad for just looks.

    for shield i would say vintage kite shield is best one available and aeolian scimitar as far as weapon goes.
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    Get Iron Longsword HQ'd over Aeolian Scimitar. Having zero pierce on Aeolian and your most used attack is Heavy Stab, makes absolutely no sense.

    Aeolian NQ: ATK: 144 | ACC: 142 | CRIT: 146 ZERO Pierce

    Longsword +1 : ATK: 144 | ACC: 145 | CRIT: 160 20% Peirce

    Aeolian does have a higher parry, but you cant parry with a shield up so whats the point. Yes even though you pop sentinel and use block, the log says you 'parry' but its not a true parry. Try using Fracture and it wont let you.
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    Last edited by wind; 07-01-2011 at 02:32 AM.

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    Stu Foo
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    For gear, you will want a r47+ haubergeon, decorated iron scutum, and strength rings for fights where you aren't booning much (goblin, dodore (if you have emulate))... and you will want iron cuirass, vintage kite shield, two mythril wristlets, and one vitality ring for when you are shield boon rotating (greater buffalo, mosshorn (supertanking), uraeus).

    The logic behind this is that strength is useless when you are using deflection and aegis boon, and it hardly matters when you are using sentinel to cover the gap in those two. The only thing that matters is the wield rate. The gear you are switching to isn't so much for VIT but for the DEF, cuts, and HP to mitigate and lessen enmity bleedout. Strength is more important when you are using the regular guard, say against the goblin, giving you more stamina to heavy stab with, using the strength even more.

    HP becomes more important against dodore if you do not have emulate, especially if you are tanking him and all the adds. It's not needed on the goblin, he's really easy with or without emulate.

    The templar's chain set is bad too. Unless they let allagan sets use two or three materia with no risk (and given that materia isn't awful stat-wise) it will never have a use.
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    Last edited by Stufoo; 06-25-2011 at 05:36 PM.

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    Zedo Gains
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    Previous posters have covered the gear requirements but on occasion the Buccaneer's Shirt is the best piece for mdef if you're distance tanking dodore or goblin. The small pdef lost from using the shirt over the iron plate won't matter. As the previous poster said if you don't have emulate (r40 thm) if might be better to invest in more HP. Honestly I haven't tanked dodore since the nerf, but previously eating 4-5 shadowsears in an instant without emulate would mean death.
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    Means death even with emulate lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    Means death even with emulate lol
    Lol, nope.
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    Amas Naya
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    For general tanking, as if it really matters...

    Iron Cuirass set.
    If shield is NQ, Decorated Iron Scutum. If shield is HQ, Vintage Kite (blocking catches up, wield rate becomes the deciding factor).
    HP accessories.
    Iron Plate Belt or Iron Tassets.
    Tarred Leather Trousers.

    HQ everything as much as possible.

    No real need for an MDef set at the moment, nothing is going to kill you with magic damage anymore (and if you were regularly dying tanking Dodore, you were doing something silly).

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenkenkobra View Post
    for shield i would say vintage kite shield is best one available and aeolian scimitar as far as weapon goes.
    Vintage Kite is only the best if it's HQ. The couple extra seconds of Deflection/Boon duration will be offset by the occasional missed block, which is something the Decorated Iron Scutum is virtually immune to.

    That said, from HQ1 onwards, the Blocking stat on Vintage Kite nearly matches or does match the DIS, at which point its wield rate makes it the winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by wind View Post
    Get Iron Longsword HQ'd over Aeolian Scimitar. Having zero pierce on Aeolian and your most used attack is Heavy Stab, makes absolutely no sense.

    Aeolian NQ: ATK: 144 | ACC: 132 | CRIT: 146 ZERO Pierce

    Longsword +1 : ATK: 144 | ACC: 145 | CRIT: 160 20% Peirce

    Aeolian does have a higher parry, but you cant parry with a shield up so whats the point. Yes even though you pop sentinel and use block, the log says you 'parry' but its not a true parry. Try using Fracture and it wont let you.
    I have both. There is virtually no difference between them.

    The damage components don't really seem to do crap. Melee damage, whether slashing or piercing, is virtually identical between Aeolian and +1 Longsword, WS damage likewise nearly identical.

    Longsword +1 has a couple more points of Acc, Aeolian has higher parry. Like you said, parry isn't that useful, but on weak mobs Acc is a non-issue, and when tanking GLA doesn't have much stamina to actually get hits in, just the occasional poke to gin up more TP for Phalanx II.

    Current stamina system puts something like 90% of stamina consumption while tanking into abilities for hate generation.

    So for weapon, pick whichever you like the look of better, or find for cheaper.

    HQ Aeolian obviously has a higher ceiling, but good luck making them in any quantity. Long+2 and higher are also painfully rare. Long+2 is more common and inexpensive than Aeolian +1, so a better choice. Aeolian +2 and Long +3 are virtually nonexistent, and Aeolian +3 is nonexistent so far as I know, so they're not really part of the quation.
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    you will use allot of stamina having to keep an iron scutum up for a long fight. I use a bull shield for the balance between yeild rate and defense but i guess it depends on preference.
    Also with the abolition of stamina gauge i may have to reevaluate my shield selection, well see.
    The scutum in my opinion is better for someone who does not use the shield and only equips it for added defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amas View Post
    I have both. There is virtually no difference between them.

    Like you said, parry isn't that useful, but on weak mobs Acc is a non-issue, and when tanking GLA doesn't have much stamina to actually get hits in, just the occasional poke to gin up more TP for Phalanx II.
    Since this thread was 'whats best gear set up for a rank 50 glad' I figured he wanted to fight NM/higher mobs. So thats why I highlighted what you said. You're right acc is a non-issue for lower mobs, but higher mobs you don't want to miss too many phalanx / heavy stabs. Or else you'll have to pick up the hate with more stamina ridden abilities.

    I also have both, or I should say had. Ended up selling my Aeolian after noticing Heavy stab's were doing 10-15 less on NMs then Longsword, and Riot was missing more with Aeolian. Its nothing to drastic since glad's aren't really there to do much DPS anyways(in a full pt). However when you duo/trio as much as I do you want as much damage as you can get while not decreasing your def/dmg mitigation.
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