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    Unless it's a BRD that gives me his sexy ballad I usually give mine to the tank, because as mentioned by someone else I have no idea which of the dps is doing or not doing his rotation properly.

    Joining AK/WP and stance dancing to help dps with holy spam usually gets me 2 commendations.
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    Most of mine have been as healer, I've tanked once and got a commendation then, as dps I've actually gotten two while on my summoner, I think from the healer who acknowledged my response to tanks being dumb (yes hug the self destructing bomb) by using titan and keeping stuff off them. I do tend to give mine out to healers, but as a healer it's whoever was either nicest or kept me safe.

    When I played swtor I'd go out of my way to thank dps after a run if they went the extra mile to keep me safe. So I hope there are other healers like that that will give the good dps the commendations they deserve.
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    commandations are a terrible idea >.<
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    Easy. If a run is smooth healers should recommend tanks, tanks the healers, and DPS each other. Unless sure, there is some special merit. What I have seen instead is that people just leave as soon as the DF is over.

    But it's good to know that healers get voted. It's time to do that hydra fight for the relic of my second class, then!! ^_^
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    I'm not really digging the commendation system. It seems like everyone I speak to (not in my party) is tossing the commendation to the healers and tanks. I had one person I spoke to blatantly say he will not commend a dps - and he was a dps... The system should be more of a "you get a commendation regardless on completion unless player votes a no to you then you don't get one from that person".

    This would still hand out commendations to all when people leave without voting, and is more fair over time. Basically it's reverse of what it is now. If your mean or w/e players vote "no". You get a "no" then no medal from that person.

    Everyone gets rewarded for doing their job and being nice. The better you do you job the more you get because you won't get a "no". The cap per dungeon stays the same. Win win.
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    Last edited by Pinworms; 12-21-2013 at 02:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    I'm not really digging the commendation system. It seems like everyone I speak to (not in my party) is tossing the commendation to the healers and tanks. I had one person I spoke to blatantly say he will not commend a dps - and he was a dps... The system should be more of a "you get a commendation regardless on completion unless player votes a no to you then you don't get one from that person".

    This would still hand out commendations to all when people leave without voting, and is more fair over time. Basically it's reverse of what it is now. If your mean or w/e players vote "no". You get a "no" then no medal from that person.

    Everyone gets rewarded for doing their job and being nice. The better you do you job the more you get because you won't get a "no". The cap per dungeon stays the same. Win win.
    As things currently stand, commendations are meaningful only in that they're a limited resource (people get to allocate one per run).

    Each "nice" person tends to hand out their commendation every dungeon run (unless they forget), even if the party as a whole didn't do anything exceptional. If we could hand them out to everyone, then very likely most people would do so [there's already forum posts asking for the ability to commend more than one person]. Like it or not, the ability to choose just only one player forces even the most kind-hearted person to pick someone on a criteria (rather than everyone, even if their criteria is just 'random').

    --While it may seem disappointing that you don't receive a commendation, I don't think the purpose of the system was for you to receive one without performing your role exceptionally well. If everyone gets a medal, every run, then commendations are no different a resource than tomes.


    Far as "doing your job", this is pretty much the reason why Tanks and Healers get commendations easier.

    -A tank's PRIMARY (note emphasis) role is to keep threat glued to them.
    -A healer's is to keep everyone alive.
    -A DPS's is to do as much damage as humanly possible.

    From the above assumption, it's actually very understandable that a tank or healer receives the commendation over a DPS .. as over-tanking or over-healing doesn't NECESSARILY (note emphasis) result in a *better* performance (as long as nobody dies). On the otherhand .... There is no damage cap to where doing more damage doesn't speed up completion time.


    I give DPS's a commendation all the time, but only if they're pushing 95%+ DPS potential [have a near perfect rotation / use their skills extremely well for their gear level] -- or if they show signs of improvement during the run. (or .. say, they do very well for someone new to their job, or the first time playing that instance)

    If you want commendations, you need to liquify the enemies. DPS's, especially those having played multiple jobs, know whether or not the other DPS is playing up to par.
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    Last edited by RaineMagus; 12-21-2013 at 10:05 PM. Reason: edited for length & amended explanation

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    As whm I received 7 in just a few runs.

    One run I recieved 3!!! The tank was bad, so I ended up tanking quite a bit, and sort of "ran the group" knowing I couldn't fix the tank.
    The next run I received none. The group was totally smooth, everyone knew what to do without talking. It was one of those totally silent yet completely effortless groups. I'm guessing everyone awarded the tank.
    The next four groups I was more vocal and proactive, typing in the strategy very briefly, and being friendly, and each group gave me one

    Anytime the tank kept things moving switly without chaos I awarded him. I awarded the DPS who had the sense to heal me when the tank couldn't hold aggro. I also awarded a dps who somehow was always second on the threat list, and also killing the adds, flipping the switch, grabbing the items, staying out of trouble, etc.


    A good tank seems like a shoe in. If the tank is bad, someone else usually steps up. I haven't seen many bad healers, but the ones who CC, DPS, and manage the group are amazing. I simply haven't had as many groups where a DPS really makes the difference (2 out of 6 so far).
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    If you're a healer and tank you naturally can distinguish yourselves. For DPS', I would say start telling jokes or sth haha.
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    If you want to farm Commendations just have 8 people click the guildhest Duty Roulette. Chances are you'll get 4 people together who can commend each other, since they didn't queue together.
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    As a DPS I find I don't get many commendations, even when I am clearly carrying a bad DPS or casting sleeps to help out with low gear tanks / healers. When I am giving mine out I tend to favor the other DPS in group just because I know they probably don't get any either, if they were bad and I carried them I just give it to tank / healer.

    The commendations I do have came from groups where we agreed to circle vote so everybody gets one.
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