Summoner's Job Evolution

[KiiNGKRUSH]

That's nonsense, explain the Avatars in FFXI? The fact that people can be in a hundred Magitek armors proves othwise. SE simply choose to have Egi look the way they look. Mind you I'm fine with and actually like them but I wouldn't mind a slight size increase.

[Ryuko]

I wouldn't take anything that happened involving Lightning seriously -- in either FFXIII or FFXIV lore. She specifically says, "I probably won't remember any of this, so please remember for me" (or something to that effect). Her appearance is just fan service and I really rolled my eyes that they would mention FFXIV lore at all. I'm fine with her randomly appearing for some promotional FATE, but mixing her up in this game lore was a bad idea.

We do have the light of Hydaelyn, but Hydaelyn is not infinite, as you will discover in the Praetorium storyline. At one point she(?) says she is exhausted and can't help anymore; you're on your own to end it. You do, thankfully, but that whole situation displays that even the light of the crystal can't absolutely save you. If it could, adventurers wouldn't be needed in the first place. As summoners grow in power, so too do their Egis. Remember the main antagonist you fight in the storyline? His Egis are larger, and he has more powers. You somehow miraculously defeat him, but he is a prime example of summoner power = Egi size/definition.

As far as the detail/size... this was merely an interpretation by me, but something I think is very real now that I've seen footage of the Titan extreme fight. If you've seen the video, you'll notice that Titan's brothers/pets/minions are the same model as YOUR Egi, except much large and slightly more defined. They aren't the BRIGHT yellow pure Earth elementals like your Egi, but rather a darker rocky color like Titan himself. They also have more defined abilities. They look more like lifelike entities instead of purified elements.

But you might be saying... "Hey! Garuda's sisters have always looked just like her and they still do!" You are right. I think this was an error on the dev team's end, because the 'sister' mechanic of Garuda has been around since she was first released in 1.0 -- except it was actually slightly different (they had different vulnerabilities). I imagine that summoner wasn't even in the works at that point, so it was not thought about when they used the same model for her sisters/minions.

[Deifact]

Lore wise, whats to stop theoretically a bunch of summoners getting together and summoning a larger Egi or something similiar to a Primal? I thought Primals came into existance via a combination of Aether and concentrated "worship" or sorts, so why can Beastmen do it and not Summoners? I guess what I am getting at is, say if you have two summoners in a party, why can't they combine their powers to summon a larger primal being?

[pandabearcat]

My only hope is once I reach level 100, and my egi can oneshot the level 50 primals, that I get to get that primal.

Its only fair.

Or rather a "fragment" of their power is many times stronger than the primal itself.

Unless we are fighting the same 3 goddamn primals our entire lives.

They'll run out of adjectives soon.

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[quieren]

Lets be honest, 75% of us expected something a little closer to 11 and that's why we picked SMN... Instead we're more like warlocks from wow

[lunar_seraphim]

On the Beta forums, I saw someone bring up a concept similar to AION's Spiritmaster, where as the class leveled, their pets became more detailed and subsequently larger. It's my hopes SE can implement something similar. As it stands now, I have no issue with the size or appearance of our Egis. I love the lore behind our Egis and to me it makes perfect sense how they work story-wise and their implementation in-game. However, looking at the future, a level 100 Summoner should be able to command something much more formidable than a level 30 Summoner.

[jars]

I believe the quote is "size does not matter"

in terms of practicality I don't really want a 20 foot summon in a raid anyway

[BlueMage]

You just need to use the thunder stone on your Ramuh Egi and he'll become Raichu.

[Dyvid]

Simple fix for this, Spur = more pronounced Egi.

[Akiza]

If you look at past Final Fantasy titles Summoner's where a combination of Black Magic and White Magic a high damage burst class with the ability to Summon High Spirits and God like beings. Originally Summoner's started off as an Evoker which is what we are now I think to create a full fledged Summoner Square should have us combine with a Black Mage