Auto attack: A complete battle system

[Kimahri]

Ditto. I feel the exact same way.

I'm sorry. But if adding an auto-attack is your excuse to want a refund when clearly there are much greater problems with the system, then maybe you should just leave the game. Sorry if I'm telling you to get out of the game, but if you're going to moan and groan over a simple feature..........Leave. It's not going to break the game.

[ESAR]

Malakhim....See? No less than a few hours from the dev post and I already see Esar and Dreamer whining.

It's not completely automated, Dreamer. Stop crying, please. It's not the end of the world. Your character won't have an engage & disengage button only. Trust me. Smacking the number one isn't a better solution to strategy.

Whining, give me a break..
It's you'll from FFXI that whined to get what you wanted. All I"m saying is congratulations, you've most likely ruined what could have been a very successful game.

The Developers know what they are doing that's why they decided to implement a type of attack like this.

Anyone even stop to consider why they would add stuff like battle without auto-attack, market wards or action based SP?

Of course not, because most of you lack something called imagination.
They did it for us. They did it because in FFXI it's what we asked for.

The economy was bad, they realized the AH was the root cause and they're working on fixing that.
Are you going to let them? of course not, you'll just complain till you get an AH. You'll do this because you don't understand what you're fighting for, you'll are just fighting blind.


TP building was considered very boring by some because of the extended wait times. this also caused classes to feel the same. Can you really tell the melee classes appart in FFXI? barely. Yeah some will build TP qiucker, some will do more damage, but in reality it's all about waiting those few attacks to use a TP skill, how absolutely pointless, why not just make every attack important and allow us full control.
I'll tell you. Because people that have no idea what the real problems are will decide in there heads and keep whining untill they get what they want. (that's you FFXI....)



Last but definatly not least, SP. Yes there was a problem with the first SP system, but does that condem all action based SP?
Of course it does.... because you'll have voices, and though you don't have a clue what you're talking about you have the right to complain.
You think they just invented this to screw with us? they didn't, they did so because they understand math and that understanding leads them to the realization that Action based SP is the only way to fully balance SP.

So yeah I may be upset but I'm not whining.
I'm upset because I feel like I'm the only one that's even given consideration to the future and what these things will do to the game, but because I'm only one voice no one will here me.

I'm not going to ruin my life for some flipping video game though. I don't need to try and battle with a bunch of blind fools. GL, have fun ruining your game.

And yes if you keep it up it seems like they will make this an FFXI-2, so keep up the good work.

And do me a favour, try some change in your life once in a while, it'll make you feel alive again....

[ESAR]

I'm sorry. But if adding an auto-attack is your excuse to want a refund when clearly there are much greater problems with the system, then maybe you should just leave the game. Sorry if I'm telling you to get out of the game, but if you're going to moan and groan over a simple feature..........Leave. It's not going to break the game.

I don't need to break the game, that's what you're here for.

[ESAR]

lol [SIZE="7"]WAKE UP[/SIZE] ,one of the reasons so many players quit the game was the lack of an auto attack feature.

Thanks SE! Weapon speed please!

This will make the combat feel soo much better.

They could have changed the weapon speed without an auto-attack lol. how narrowminded.

How is a change in attack speed this way going to make any weapon different from the others????
It's not going to.

It's gonig to make them all feel the exact same, there is going to now be 0 difference between them lol

Great SE you may as well just change the jobs back to FFXI lol
It's the only way your going to create and meaningful difference now.

[ESAR]

Bummer. I am definitely not looking forward to an auto-attack system. While not perfect yet, I really thought they were on to something with the current system.

Apparently I was not paying attention to realize Matsui was the current battle lead. As a long time PUP in XI, my expectations for any new system are quite low based on that alone.

They were on to something, it was going to be awesome. each weapon was unique, the only real problem was that each had the same attack speed. If they woulda fixed that and gave us a way to better control our attack (extended queue) possibly and auto-attack that still used stamina and could be toggled on and off battle would have been awesome.

They're gonna have alot of fun trying to make every weapon feel unique now lol
It's not cause I can tell the future, I just can't imagine any way they can pull it off.
And I have a pretty openminded imagination.

Prove me wrong SE prove me wrong.

I'm not going to waste my time on these forums though. Gl .

[Malakhim]

Malakhim....See? No less than a few hours from the dev post and I already see Esar and Dreamer whining.

I'm nobody's dad, bro.

But as you can imagine, their tantrum isn't going to help their cause either.

Guys, I was one of the bigger supporters of an active attack, but let's just chill out for a sec and see what's coming down the pipe. If it's crap, it's crap. If it ain't, well hurray.

We'll just have to wait until we get to see some substantial news.

[SilvertearRen]

My advice is to make the auto-attack a mappable function for any 0-cost skill of the class. For example, Lancer has Light Thrust, Heavy Thrust, Pierce and Full Thrust that do not cost any Action Points to map to your hotbar. Why not make those abilities "auto-attack" toggle-able? Add a switch in the Configuration menu that lets you select "Set Slot 1 as Auto-Attack Toggle", that allows players who want to have Auto-Attack, to turn it on; those who would not want auto-attack, would turn that off.

That way, if you wanted to use Full Thrust as an auto-attack, all you'd have to do is map it to the auto-attack slot in your hotkey bar when the feature is enabled. This is a very simple solution to a complex and controversial problem.

[Aion]

its really cool to loving/loathing something that we dont know what it is exactly yet....

btw, Im in for different weapon speed/weapon TP generation with/without AA

and SE, JUST GIMME AWESOME WS ANIMATION!!!!!

[ChiefCurrahee]

They were on to something, it was going to be awesome. each weapon was unique, the only real problem was that each had the same attack speed. If they woulda fixed that and gave us a way to better control our attack (extended queue) possibly and auto-attack that still used stamina and could be toggled on and off battle would have been awesome.

They're gonna have alot of fun trying to make every weapon feel unique now lol
It's not cause I can tell the future, I just can't imagine any way they can pull it off.
And I have a pretty openminded imagination.

Prove me wrong SE prove me wrong.

I'm not going to waste my time on these forums though. Gl .

It's ok to be upset Esar, But don't take it out on other peoples opinions.

THe devs didn't just bend to our will. They have had an auto attack system in the works for a while. What happens is they have an in house test build, they probably had many versions of battle. They asked their testers what did you find more fun? Obviously the answer was AA.
They then compiled the poll results, they read the feedback on the forums. And came the conclusion, the players don't like the current battle system (polls) they are willing to accept change (polls) AA is a heavily debated topic (forum) our testing team thinks AA is a better system for the game. AA is in.
Changes like this are the type of changes that will bring people back to the game.
If you don't like it fine, don't get angry at us. SE lost 290k players in the first few months i'm sure they won't miss a few more.

[Lahru_Hukurou]

I like what he had to say, makes me feel good about the outlook for this game. Bringing auto-attack back, but it won't be a carbon copy of FFXI.