Auto attack: A complete battle system

[Reika]

Different is not the same as imperfect.

[Kimahri]

Quit talking, Reika, if you're only going to state a single sentence with absolutely nothing to debate over. Go sit in the corner while we grown ups talk things over.

[Reika]

What a very grown up thing to say ^^.

Well if you wanna be rude...
The only reason that "Implementation of auto attack system" ever came up in Yoshi's letter is because people can't adjust to anything new. The only reason it appeared is to appease the whiney titty babies, who cry and complain when things arent copy/pasted properly.

If you dont like how 'Broken' this game is, go back to FFXI, WoW, Aion, Copy/paste rift, or wherever you came from. Nothing lost.

OOOR better yet. Go become the producer and make the game how you see fit. People don't normally get the power to shape up an entire mmo, stop abusing it.

Actually, I dont even know why i am arguing with someone that hasnt gotten past R25 in a battle job..

Back to the topic. I reiterate that just because things are 'different' than FFXI doesnt make them imperfect. I have had ZERO issues with playing my classes without auto attack. Lack of auto attack + stamina increases skill use tactics.

If you haven't gotten use to it, maybe you just lack skill.... or a brain.... or maybe your brain is on drugs?

[ChiefCurrahee]

If you haven't gotten use to it, maybe you just lack skill.... or a brain.... or maybe your brain is on drugs?

It take absolutely now skill or a brain to press buttons either.

Tell me what is the use of the default #1 attack? To do dmg and to gain TP. It serves no other purpose, none what so ever.
Your other TP building attacks that you gain have effects attached to them such as bind or AOE or evasion boost ect ect. THese attacks make these selectable stamina reducing attacks.
But as far as the #1 attack is concerned it is more of a hinderance than a blessing. Thus I propose that it becomes toggable for auto attack. Everything else stays the same.

And P.S. in my 7+ years of playing FFXI with its auto attack system i've never watched TV or gone afk for extended periods of time while i just let my character auto attack. I may have taken the opportunity to eat/drink something mid battle talk on the phone, talk to my wife and input abilities and skills at a more leisured pace since I didn't have to focus on building TP with a press of some button.
I don't want auto attack because I want to do something else. I want auto attack because the concept of having to build TP is tedious. This isn't an action game.

[Kimahri]

What a very grown up thing to say ^^.

Well if you wanna be rude...
The only reason that "Implementation of auto attack system" ever came up in Yoshi's letter is because people can't adjust to anything new. The only reason it appeared is to appease the whiney titty babies, who cry and complain when things arent copy/pasted properly.

If you dont like how 'Broken' this game is, go back to FFXI, WoW, Aion, Copy/paste rift, or wherever you came from. Nothing lost.

OOOR better yet. Go become the producer and make the game how you see fit. People don't normally get the power to shape up an entire mmo, stop abusing it.

Actually, I dont even know why i am arguing with someone that hasnt gotten past R25 in a battle job..

Back to the topic. I reiterate that just because things are 'different' than FFXI doesnt make them imperfect. I have had ZERO issues with playing my classes without auto attack. Lack of auto attack + stamina increases skill use tactics.

If you haven't gotten use to it, maybe you just lack skill.... or a brain.... or maybe your brain is on drugs?

*Yawn* It's so funny that you again stated nothing except to tell people to go back to FFXI. Haha, pathetic. I'm sorry, but to "Argue" with someone over a topic, you have to list a couple of points to "Argue" about. I'm going to go ahead and cut and paste your own quote slightly modified.

maybe you just lack.....a brain.... or maybe your brain is on drugs?

Maybe you haven't thought to consider that people would rather you only turn attack on or off rather than press the number one button over & over again? Wait.....Let's go back to your quote up above! Hahahaha!

Edit: As regards to my ranks? Oh well. I only have so much time to play the game. I have other obligations to attend to before I can enjoy my personal desires.

[Kimahri]

No, Reika. I'm telling you to shut up because honestly I have yet to see a valid point from you since coming to this thread. If you're going to comment back with absolutely nothing to say, or nit pick points of my examples that means absolutely nothing, (Like trying to tell me Dragon Age 2 came out after FFXIV?) then do not post replies. I can be very civil with anyone, but I do not have patience to talk to anyone who says nothing or posts invalid replies.

Here's a challenge. Can you actually, right now, post at least three different reasons why auto-attack doesn't belong and explain why the current system holds much more water? If not, then stop posting. Bring something to the table to further an argument. Maybe then I won't hound you for being a hinderance.

Edit: By the way, Reika. Aren't you the hypocrite? I clearly remember you telling anyone who opposed any different opinion other than yours to go play something else.

[Evovenom]

No, Reika. I'm telling you to shut up. lol

Edit: By the way, Reika. Aren't you the hypocrite? I clearly remember you telling anyone who opposed any different opinion other than yours to go play something else.

Like I always say, the door to FFXI is still open. No one is stopping you from playing it again if you love it so much....

No one cares about the opinion of someone with so few posts! BEGONE!

People will play the game how they want. If people are going to start and ARC bandwagon cuz they are scared of an AOE attack, so be it. Some people acually like punching or chopping things up close.

And like I always say, the door to FFXI and other MMO's is always open.

Hope that helps clear few things up.

[Reika]

Kimahri hasnt even really played the game yet. And i tell people who want FFXI-2 to go play FFXI.

[Reika]

You should probably go back through all the posts. I believe I only 'attacked' Kimahri after he attacked me. let me help you out....

There are quite a few more tactics involved than spamming 1 or 2 or whatever. I have learned that doing that only leaves me out of stamina for more important skills like Provoke, Sentinel, etc. Plus another good tactic to the current system is to start a battle regimen when you are nearly out of stamina, this lets your stamina bar's recover while others join the battle regimen.

Auto attack is unnecessary, Just adapt to the current system in place. It just needs improvements such as lag times and animation of attacks.

Page 7, 1st post on this thread.

Sentinel lasts for more than 10 seconds... if you are a Gladiator or have Swordsmanship. Provoke is not a trait, and does not do damage.

Automated battle systems will only serve to aid botters and put people to sleep.

page 7, 2nd post.

Heavy stab does not have as much Eminity gain as you would believe. Heavy Slash beats it, and costs as much stamina as Provoke, Sentinel, Aegis Boon, Deflection, Disorient, etc.

Why don't we just ask them to make this game just like WoW and Rift (both are exactly alike) since so many people have to bring up WoW all the time when comparing. Let us bring the entire immature player population over while they are at it. Make it a game all the lazy douche bags love to infest.

Lack of auto attack gives FFXIV a more into an action-based combat system other MMO's lack. To complain about spamming means to complain about every MMO every created. In WoW and Rift you spam instant skills with only a .5-1sec global cooldown and short cooldowns like 5 or 6 seconds, In Aion you spam chain skills, so on and so forth. In sense, they are still 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 (the current for Paladin, Rogue, Death Knight, blah blah). FFXIV just has you spamming in a way you wont do any damage unless you're awake.

Page 7, 3rd post.

Who seriously makes macros so they can do battle in their sleep? If i find one of them in my behest I'm kicking them out...

page 7, 4th post.

This thread should just be renamed "Auto-Attack: A blast from the past!"
OR "Auto-Attack: Because I am lazy!"
OR "Auto-Attack: All the mmos are doing it!"
OR "Auto-Attack: Because I hate originality"

Page 16, 5th post.

Unnecessary = Adding auto attack = More work than necessary. quite a simple equation.

Page 17, 6th post.

Nah, there will just be auto attack lag. it will still be your game sending info to server sending info back you you and displaying on screen with every attack. This wont fix that.

page 17, 7th post.

Not going away? It isnt even here yet lol.

Page 17, 8th post.

Different is not the same as imperfect.

page 17, 9th post.

What a very grown up thing to say ^^.

Well if you wanna be rude...
The only reason that "Implementation of auto attack system" ever came up in Yoshi's letter is because people can't adjust to anything new. The only reason it appeared is to appease the whiney titty babies, who cry and complain when things arent copy/pasted properly.

If you dont like how 'Broken' this game is, go back to FFXI, WoW, Aion, Copy/paste rift, or wherever you came from. Nothing lost.

OOOR better yet. Go become the producer and make the game how you see fit. People don't normally get the power to shape up an entire mmo, stop abusing it.

Actually, I dont even know why i am arguing with someone that hasnt gotten past R25 in a battle job..

Back to the topic. I reiterate that just because things are 'different' than FFXI doesnt make them imperfect. I have had ZERO issues with playing my classes without auto attack. Lack of auto attack + stamina increases skill use tactics.

If you haven't gotten use to it, maybe you just lack skill.... or a brain.... or maybe your brain is on drugs?

page 18, 10th post. and the ONLY attack on anyone, because he decided to attack me first with the go sit in the corner crap.

I doubt they are even reading this thread to form a basis of weather or not they should add auto attack, since there are those that want to attack opinions and start the rude game.

page 18, 11th post.

You have made scornful remarks at everyone that is Anti-auto attack, anti-job/subjob, and pro-BR. "That person isnt voting for auto attack! lets tell em to shut up and go sit in a corner."

Page 18, 12th post.

Kimahri hasnt even really played the game yet. And i tell people who want FFXI-2 to go play FFXI.

page 19, 13th post.

[Evovenom]

Many users like Reika don't provide constructive feedback, you like few others are posting alot with nothing but negetive feedback against some decent ideas. Reason why you aswell as them will be dislike sooner or later. As you can see enough people are dislike you already. Just chill out, not because you have crap load of posts makes you cooler then others. Anyways you are free to do as you like, just don't find it surprising when this happens often.