Thread: On 2.1 WHM Nerfs

cure 3 being half mana now is a buff yo cure 3, a crit cure 3 for tons of mana was a waste of mana now with the new cost it will have a niche .

medica 2 is less hate all at once so this isnt really that bad,

holy and thunder is whatever as whm is a healer not a dps.

virus was the biggest thing and its not even that bad.

Originally Posted by Cynric

cure 3 being half mana now is a buff yo cure 3, a crit cure 3 for tons of mana was a waste of mana now with the new cost it will have a niche .

medica 2 is less hate all at once so this isnt really that bad,

holy and thunder is whatever as whm is a healer not a dps.

virus was the biggest thing and its not even that bad.

1.) Cure III is a joke. I have never, not once, cast Cure III intentionally. Medica I and II are less MP and have a larger radius. I don't even have it on my hotbar anymore.

2.) Medica II is a wash, though the potency was nice to have in crisis moments. If you pull hate using Medica II, you aren't using your abilities or managing hate correctly.

3.) Do you even play WHM? It's not viable in Coil. One place. ONE. It's viable EVERYWHERE ELSE. Would you rather I just stand there waiting for someone to take damage? Let's not kill faster, more efficient, and complete dungeons ahead of schedule because you want the WHM to never, under any circumstances cast any offensive magic. Standing around doing nothing waiting for HP to fall is a waste of potential. Please reevaluate your post as this makes you look ignorant.

4.) Yeah, go tell that to Turn 5 and let me know how that works out for you.

Thunder removal and Holy nerfs were whatever....it's mostly a nerf to speedruns.



Medica II nerf is unacceptable. This game strongly encourages keeping people topped off rather than triage healing. Especially right when Titan hits phase 5. Other examples include keeping people topped off on ADS in case somebody lags and gets hit by a laser (on low hp targets the AOE ticks can kill right after), etc etc.


Moreover, it is a straight nerf to tank healing, as the HoT was very useful coupled with Regen on tanks.

Holy was very overpowered. It's a normal nerf. For the CureIII "nerf", I don't see at as a nerf since it used so much MP for less potency than CureII and less range than Medica. I never used the proc. Now, I might consider using it since WHM is all about MP management.

Originally Posted by Altheras

How could it be cast more frequently exactly?

I assume he was referring to how you could chain 3 Holy's back-2-back with nary a penalty, solely because of the stun effect rendering mobs immobile the entire time, to which the devs didn't touch that aspect of the spell.

Cure III is now useless. (Unless they make some raid mechanic where your Healers will be out of Medica range. Lol?)

It was useless even with the nice auto crit that you get on the CII proc. In fact, the only time I ever used a Proc'd Cure III was during Titan when everyone stacks on jumps. Totally unnecessary, but I like to use it to keep my tank awake and paying attention, and as solo WHM healer in Titan it was pretty much guaranteed that everyone was full HP in one heal.

...Nobody uses Cure III without a proc, and even now...It's going to be extremely rare to see a WHM even use a Proc'd Cure III unless a game mechanic forces it.

Really don't see how Yoshi can call this a buff.

Originally Posted by lordbones

Cure III is now useless. (Unless they make some raid mechanic where your Healers will be out of Medica range. Lol?)

24 mans. At the very least, 6 tanks in range of C3. Also, Medica probably won't hit the other 2 parties, so C3 will/should become the go to melee heal if multiple cross party people have low health.