Items Database Updated! - Are the new weapons worth it?

[saber_alter]

onion shield seems useful, doesn't have skill speed on it.

Dual Haken looks like a great weapon (be happy warriors )

elfin bow seems like its exchangeable between artemis zenith and itself, you lose 37 acc by taking it, but it has crit and determination.

hellish claws: acc and determination, better than siphairai i think. (idk monk)

Omnirod: crit an piety, determination loss might make it either-or.

elder staff: lacks skill speed.

books: both have spell speed, exchangeable with omnilex and veil. (though omnitome might be better since it has accuracy if your summoner is lacking that.)

[Delnoir]

Dual Haken looks like a great weapon (be happy warriors )

I'm anything BUT happy. Spend myth tomes to get Zenith'd have a ball for a month, feel ready for the patch, then BAM. Primal weapon is better. That's a real kick in the teeth. I'll probably just end up getting the Holy Lance for my Dragoon and save it for cosmetics.

[Lemon8or]

Personally, I prefer the Dual Haken on my warrior to the Bravura Zenith since with that much accuracy, I can use other pieces without worrying about the cap.

[BillyBones]

Uh that DRG lance.. I like having options and all but seriously, why would anyone give up critrate and a big chunk of precision for speed?

[HumsterMKX]

Depends a lot on what equipment and food you are using. The new i90 weapons just help you min/max more.

[misterrpg]

between Holy Shield and Allagan shield I see that, but I think it goes much deeper now when trying to balance effective mitigation between a kite shield and a lantern shield. If kite shields are superior mitigation then Allagan is BiS, but if lantern shields are then Onion shield is BiS despite missing a relatively small amount of parry and accuracy.

There hasn't been enough testing to see if kite, tower, or small shields are better.

By the way... Onion has the best stats out of any shield. 7 parry and 11 crit. Crit is better than 7 acc (almost useless) and 7 skill speed.

[FadeZone]

I think PLDs and BLMs got the short end of the stick with these weapons. Their item level weapon set is effectively ILvl 92.5, not 95, since there is no iLvl 95 shield.

[zdub303]

I think PLDs and BLMs got the short end of the stick with these weapons. Their item level weapon set is effectively ILvl 92.5, not 95, since there is no iLvl 95 shield.

That's not really true. weapon damage is consistent across all weapons, the only thing that is missing is a very small amount of primary stats on the off hand which is biased to have a lower contribution to primary stats vs the weapon. If anything its more like ilvl 94.6ish or so.

[misterrpg]

The i90 shield has the same primary stats as the Allagan shield.