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Thread: 2.1 BRD BiS?

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    Why are you stacking so much acc? I only have 464 before food and I have never missed anything in coil. including all of our learning time and 5 twin kills. I will happily chance missing a time or two in exchange for higher stats elsewhere.... which will end up being higher overall dps.
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    Hmm thats kind of what I was asking Akesis, but what is the % of a miss vs the gain in dps? That is the question to answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnesium02 View Post
    What about the new bow? If you use the Elfin Bow and swap the tights for Allagan pants you would be way up on Crit and up a little on Acc and Det while only losing 3 DEX and some skill speed
    I'm going to go with a crit/det setup for everything that is not turn 5. Elfin Bow included. Here's how it looks:

    http://ariyala.com/bard.html?2884102...741.3698049930
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    Well, 470 Accuracy is your benchmark for coil, before considering other changes to skills etc.

    In the absence of a hard-to-get Allagan Composite Bow, the Elfin Bow becomes Best-In-Slot, provided you can make up your accuracy requirements elsewhere. (I often eat Stuffed Cabbage for this purpose, but there are other things you can do as well.)
    In places like the Crystal Tower, or anywhere other than the Binding Coil for that matter, your accuracy benchmark is going to be lower, making the Elfin Bow easily better than the Artemis Bow Zenith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akesis View Post
    Why are you stacking so much acc? I only have 464 before food and I have never missed anything in coil. including all of our learning time and 5 twin kills. I will happily chance missing a time or two in exchange for higher stats elsewhere.... which will end up being higher overall dps.
    You could do this small variation to the crit build.
    You lose 6 acc for 6 crit, but I have heard you need 480-482 for the snakes on turn 5. 6 crit is only a .42% chance to crit though, I dunno I like having around 472 base acc so i only need to use acc food for turn 5 and I can use buttons for everything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeonC View Post
    Hmm thats kind of what I was asking Akesis, but what is the % of a miss vs the gain in dps? That is the question to answer.
    There's a lot we don't know, like what percentage of evasion down does RoD do. You also have to consider if the extra stats from gear would make up for the fact that you have to waste a gcd every 20 sec on RoD. Trying to keep RoD up for every DS on twintania in 2.0 caused me to have serious TP issues especially in the last 2 phases. I would rather have capped acc on gear and have no TP issues for turn 5.
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    Last edited by MattaruVoltaru; 12-17-2013 at 09:26 AM.

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    CT can be completed in lv 60 gear, it's wildly irrelevant. You're gonna crap all over it in 80+ gear. The only fight you should really be considering with BIS is Twintania, as that's the hardest fight you'll have to face every week.
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    ...and extreme primals, in which we do not know the acc cap for. Either way, I want to go as low as possible without missing on t4-5 and some people report 470ish being fine others say 482 is a must...idk
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    I am really not sure. doing our own testing with the 8 bards in our FC on turn 5..... we didn't see any misses till we were below 470 (don't remember the exact number), food included... even then it was 1 miss over a period of more then 40 total T5 pulls between all of the groups. The miss was on a snake and nothing else.... with that said it could have even come from an AOE.

    personally I will be shooting for as close to 470 (with food) as I can without going too much over to maximize crit. I haven't run full numbers yet. but the new bow is looking better due to the crit from it and how easily 464 is to achieve with the new accessories. even at a lower item level and a couple of dex, I will try to stack as much crit as gear will allow. longer boss fights will compensate with more crits being landed. we wont know 100% till people can farm gear and beat on some bosses to see how things sort out.
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    Well thanks for the reply I will do the same and report post patch my findings, my goal will be to hit around the low 470's and max crit.
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    This kind of sucks..I worked hard for my relic bow, and now pretty much become obsolete from elfin bow. If I knew this was coming I wouldn't have wasted my time. Fix our relics SE
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