Monk 2.1 Discussion

**NintenPyjak64** · 12-17-2013 04:28 PM

Just out of curiosity, I'm planning on gearing up my monk soon and I was wondering if I should go for Zenith or Hellish Claws as my iLvl 90? And which sets would benefit me depending on the weapon?

**Wingszerodrive** · 12-17-2013 04:31 PM

to be honest the new hellish claws are better due to the stats not to mention to get relic zenith is 900 myth tomes unless they change that but not sure i know im changing my +1 once i get those new claws

**Ephier** · 12-17-2013 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

Just out of curiosity, I'm planning on gearing up my monk soon and I was wondering if I should go for Zenith or Hellish Claws as my iLvl 90? And which sets would benefit me depending on the weapon?

Hellish claws. Switching immediately.

**NintenPyjak64** · 12-17-2013 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Wingszerodrive

to be honest the new hellish claws are better due to the stats not to mention to get relic zenith is 900 myth tomes unless they change that but not sure i know im changing my +1 once i get those new claws

I was thinking this initially, but if so, shouldn't my gear armor compensate some of the Skill Speed and bit of accuracy I would have had otherwise? And how would this affect a "standard" rotation? I've always heard you shouldn't be using True Strike if you don't hit a certain skill speed threshold, so would this be a factor in ultimately deciding my rotation?

**Zakard** · 12-17-2013 04:40 PM

hellish will be better.first they seem to look insane :P i always prefer the look of claw so far.they actualy look like a weapon....relic+1 i dont understand how this shit is considered as a weapon...seem like he would do more dmg with is bare fist...

for the stats,you lose 11 accuracy but gain 26 determination instead of 26 skill speed.determination inc dps a lot more then skill speed.imo,skill speed is *fake* dps inc.yes you hit faster and dps might get higther BUT you are burning your tp a lot faster.on short fight it might be good but on long fight,if you burn your tp to fast it will screw up your dps in the end.you also need a hight amount of skill speed to actualy make a difference.crit/determination actualy inc your dmg without hurting your tp so on long fight,its actualy a dps increase.

hellish also have a faster attack speed so you will actualy attack faster then with relic+1

@ninten new patch increase twin snake duration and boosted bootshine/true strike.you will NEED to use them no matter wich weapon you choose.for the accuracy yes you might need to get some more if you arent at cap with it.for skill speed....no.skill speed is trash imo.its better to focus on determination/crit

**Rochetm** · 12-17-2013 04:44 PM

Allagan > Hellish > Relic +1

Also it looks like hellish will look cool so that adds like 1000 dps.

**Wingszerodrive** · 12-17-2013 04:47 PM

yea with these new changes specially twinsnakes increased to 15 sec the amount of skill speed required is not that much anymore sigh time to revise all of my stats now >.<

**Purutzil** · 12-17-2013 11:26 PM

My only complaint is greased lightning wasn't given something to help keep it up during those 'lol' gaps in combat where you can't put it up quick enough. Should tackle CD helps on some but definently not all situations. Still... yeah wow on the change. Making me flail around a lot more for dps which can be quite a pain on some fights weaving in and out of flank and backside, but... yeah I'm very surprised they boosted Monk dps quite a bit. O.O Rather Greased lightning just being buffed for easier up time, but hell I'll take the extra DPS.

**Zakard** · 12-18-2013 12:53 AM

lol im so damn lost in my rotation now.i was still using bootshine/true strike before but it seem like rear position for demo is a bit hard to assimilate.using PB with those new change is messing a lot too ^^

**Remonti** · 12-19-2013 05:52 AM

Thanks for the replies! So many mixed answers! So for MNK DoTs, I should not reapply if it's a buffed DoT, and ensure that it doesn't fall off from the target? Just hit 50 on him today! /happy!

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