"Why does SE make content not obtainable by everyone?" Huh?!

[Hasseo]

getting gear is a goal, leveling is a goal, farming 24/7 isnt a goal. Noone is expecting it to be handed to them. People have been saving for this since launch and some before and cant afford this crap. Does a small fc need a mansion no, but should be told that realisticly if want this you have randomly bring in people just because. The goal arguement has no bases. Enlarging a house over time getting better items for it those are reasonable goals. I am sick of people saying this is goal tho when half the crap in this game that should have to work for is handed to you. When some of us said that content was too easy with no goals we were told no that wouldnt be fair.

[Axidrain]

getting gear is a goal, leveling is a goal, farming 24/7 isnt a goal. Noone is expecting it to be handed to them. People have been saving for this since launch and some before and cant afford this crap. Does a small fc need a mansion no, but should be told that realisticly if want this you have randomly bring in people just because. The goal arguement has no bases. Enlarging a house over time getting better items for it those are reasonable goals. I am sick of people saying this is goal tho when half the crap in this game that should have to work for is handed to you. When some of us said that content was too easy with no goals we were told no that wouldnt be fair.

yeah i dont play mmo's to be a gil farmer. screw that. id rather pay real money than spend hours upon hours selling crap.

[TsohG]

Its time for those "Leader" wannabe's to disband their fc since its like 8974189312 different fc's in game, they all want to "lead" for "fun" and now they cry... Go merge people, make new strong FC's who can afford buying a house, also dont get mad only cause you cant buy a large house 2 minutes after you login.. you want to do everything easy dont u ?

[Sunarie]

Its time for those "Leader" wannabe's to disband their fc since its like 8974189312 different fc's in game, they all want to "lead" for "fun" and now they cry... Go merge people, make new strong FC's who can afford buying a house, also dont get mad only cause you cant buy a large house 2 minutes after you login.. you want to do everything easy dont u ?

Cause the first thing I want to do is leave the people I trust, join a different FC and entrust them with all my gil for a vaniety feature I will probably have zero control over in that new FC (assuming the FC leader doesn't bail, and all other members donate as much as I have of course). That sounds amazing. Also, nice strawman argument. Please point me to where -anyone- at all has said they expect to buy the largest, or even a large house, within even a week (or hell, even a month or three) of the patch.

[Roris]

Its time for those "Leader" wannabe's to disband their fc since its like 8974189312 different fc's in game, they all want to "lead" for "fun" and now they cry... Go merge people, make new strong FC's who can afford buying a house, also dont get mad only cause you cant buy a large house 2 minutes after you login.. you want to do everything easy dont u ?

Sure let me just drop my FC full of cool buddies I trust and have been playing together since last year and let's all join a bigger FC full of people we don't really know or wouldn't really trust with our gil just to maybe get to own a small house that no more than 60 people can fit in anyway, great idea. About the easy part, I'm glad people keep getting that out of their system and it's really just proof the game shouldn't have been that easy, what with all the gear it hands out and the Echo buff, they also keep ignoring people that keep saying they don't want easy things but that's cool too.

[Hasseo]

People arent complaining they cant get day one. They not complaining cause cant get a large house.... They complaining cause for alot of fc's its not realistic at anypoint in even the near future to get even the smallest. Why should we all have to be in some mega fc when most dont even have a close knit community which whole point of an fc. Some of these people have been playing together since before xiv was even announced. Saying they should just break is about as dumb an arguement that could be made.

[TsohG]

Sure let me just drop my FC full of cool buddies I trust and have been playing together since last year and let's all join a bigger FC full of people we don't really know or wouldn't really trust with our gil just to maybe get to own a small house that no more than 60 people can fit in anyway, great idea. About the easy part, I'm glad people keep getting that out of their system and it's really just proof the game shouldn't have been that easy, what with all the gear it hands out and the Echo buff, they also keep ignoring people that keep saying they don't want easy things but that's cool too.

Im talking about random people doing random fc's and get members that someone else could get.. do you realise what im saying ? those fc's must disband since they do NOTHING, they are not even organised, its just a kid who did fc for fun inviting random people that wont even talk after a week.

[Ryuko]

Housing prices aside, I'm pretty sure the reason people are THIS upset is because SE spent months and months hyping the housing system, showing us all the awesome cool features, encouraging us to work together as a FC, etc...

And then they release the prices, and the majority of people realize they can't afford it. I won't pass judgment until I actually SEE who is buying these houses, but I'm pretty sure very few FCs will be able to get even the smallest house without one rich person contributing a LOT from his or her pocket. I understand SE wanting Free Companies to work together, but the numbers used are nearly unobtainable by the majority.

Another issue is the fact that there are a LOT of smaller FCs... not HUGE ones, not tiny ones... just a FC with perhaps 30-ish members who just won't ever be able to afford something like that without everyone going broke. People have been joking about only the FCs that were selling Titan runs being able to afford this, but unfortunately I think it's true. I recall one particularly controversial thread on FB where someone was showing off the money his guild made from Titan runs. It's a LOT. But how do Free Companies, as a whole, obtain money otherwise? There really aren't a lot of great outlets to earn that much money. I think my FC has 100,000 in it from when a tank bet me I couldn't pull hate off him. I succeeded, and dumped the 100,000 in the FC bank. I personally have 1mil and the person I know with the most gil is around 30mil, but that's from ALL of my friends across the server, and all this guy does is craft. He has barely touched endgame because of the time he's spent making money.

[SinisterJoint]

Its about Goals . You set a goal and try to reach that goal . Then challenge yourself to a higher goal . That is what SE is doing . You can get a large FC house . Join a larger FC and poof there is your house. You don't want to be in that large of a FC that is YOUR choice . Its like life really . Again set a goal , work really hard to reach that goal , set a new goal . But sadly in the world today people think they are entitled to things. And want things given to them with little to no effort .

This reply right here, I'm pretty sick of seeing. The fact is, its FC HOUSING. It's not an end game raid, end game content, bis weapon, or some other form of progression.

It's PURE VANITY, not some glorious accomplishment or achievement, its not some hardcore goal, its a damn FC house. Any MMO out there that has Guild/FC housing or guildhall WOULD NEVER and DOESNT charge players this astronomical amount. and it is just that, an astronomical amount.

It's not about wanting it NOW NOW NOW, it's about being realistic..plain and simple. For those who keep coming on here with the suck it up mentality I say you need to get your head checked and priorities straight because anyone that calls this a "hardcore goal" or some other form of elitist bs can, well... piss off.

Face it, this was a stupid move on SE's part because the prices are pretty outrageous and silly to expect anyone to want to spend that kind of in game currency to attain the plot.

Not only that, its opening up a whole can of worms with RMT and there is no way around that. Whoever had the picture with the donkey and the ban hammer had it 110% right. SE is kinda pushing players to RMT with this move, which is stupid as all hell because they clearly didn't think it through.

I do love this game, and I am enjoying every minute I play. I raid endgame, I craft/gather and make good gil. I have 0 qualms with anything else they have been doing (well the RoD nerf was a wtf moment /shrug) aside from that, housing should not be this bad of a sink, it SHOULD be attainable by all.

The only thing I can see is FC's should have a minimum amount of people required to start one because the fc's running around with 3 people in it is kinda silly...lets be honest about that one. THis is probably why they made the prices so high, so all the midget FC's (with rosters under 10 people) don't blow up their servers because of all the instances needed to support them.

[Beeraga]

Cool, lets go ahead say its ok for only certain people to get things in the game because they have more time on their hands either available to them, or they are willing to commit to doing so. Lets just make that an assumption the OP is suggesting, ignoring the parts where the majority of players who are not hardcore and do not have that much time to commit to grinding are "whiners".

All right, here is the problem. If that is the case, then everyone's subscription fee should be prorated based on the time they play. That way, you can still get all the grindy stuff you want and play all day if you like, and I can pay less and not feel like im paying for content I'll never get to enjoy.

Of course, the problem there is if I pay less in a prorated sub (or I don't pay at all as a casual consumer who gives up on a grind based game), that would mean of course, the OP would need to pay a higher cost to keep the game from folding. In fact, a much much higher cost. Like, thousands of dollars a month or more!

Casual gamers subsidize hardcore gamers content. Something as cosmetic and non-hardcore as player housing should not be so limited.