[Discussion] BiS WAR 2.1

**TaalAzura** · 12-19-2013 03:22 AM

your gearset =/= discussion on whats BiS for job

**ZDamned** · 12-19-2013 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by TaalAzura

My question is why you don't choose to use allagan baxe, which has a higher main stats/wd?

Honestly, since it's the only iLvl 95 item in the game, I don't think anyone is going to disagree that the Battleaxe is anything short of BiS. Perhaps we should just focus on all other slots?

**TaalAzura** · 12-19-2013 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by ZDamned

Honestly, since it's the only iLvl 95 item in the game, I don't think anyone is going to disagree that the Battleaxe is anything short of BiS. Perhaps we should just focus on all other slots?

Gamemako is claiming bravura+1 beats it out because of it's parry i assume

**ZDamned** · 12-19-2013 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by TaalAzura

Gamemako is claiming bravura+1 beats it out because of it's parry i assume

LOL!

+1 Weapon damage, +3 Strength and +4 Vitality, I'd use that any day over the Bravura Zenith.

That's 10~ points of strength worth of primary stat boost, and more Vitality. No reason to not use it, and you can trade out Accuracy elsewhere.... Such as the Mythology Chest piece.

**TaalAzura** · 12-19-2013 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by ZDamned

LOL!

+1 Weapon damage, +3 Strength and +4 Vitality, I'd use that any day over the Bravura Zenith.

That's 10~ points of strength worth of primary stat boost, and more Vitality. No reason to not use it, and you can trade out Accuracy elsewhere.... Such as the Mythology Chest piece.

Myth actually offers 10 less acc than the Heavy allagan, WAR are kind forced to have close to 500 Acc.

**ZDamned** · 12-19-2013 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by TaalAzura

Myth actually offers 10 less acc than the Heavy allagan, WAR are kind forced to have close to 500 Acc.

Thats what I meant by trading out for it. =) I was in the sticky situation where I need the Allagan Chest because of the Darklight legs going away.

**Eclipsed** · 12-19-2013 04:19 AM

The whole melded crafted accessories is now a moot point with the aggro changes. There is absolutely no need for STR now to hold aggro off of anything. If you are MT'ing go for the most VIT/Parry you can get while maintaining acc cap. If OT'ing go full on DPS accessories, don't worry about mixing in VIT and such for that purpose. We have plenty of HP and def to do that job without tanking accessories with the new cd's and such.

If you happen to get some Crit, Det, or SS along with it then awesome. IMO, am not seeing the potential for significant chances with the current gear to significantly gain any of those stats in sufficient quantities to truly have any real impact that anyone would notice.

**Molly_Millions** · 12-19-2013 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by ZDamned

Honestly, since it's the only iLvl 95 item in the game, I don't think anyone is going to disagree that the Battleaxe is anything short of BiS. Perhaps we should just focus on all other slots?

^^ This. Obviously the other weapon is better. Again, my concern is the armor, not the weapon.

**Gamemako** · 12-19-2013 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by TaalAzura

My question is why you don't choose to use allagan baxe, which has a higher main stats/wd?

Ha, you're totally right. For some reason, I looked at them and saw the same stats as the previous tier. Sort of a facepalm-worthy mistake, innit? Yeah, if you're prioritizing VIT over all else, then you'll want the Allagan axe. The feet also go back to Allagan, resulting in -31 parry and +4 VIT over the previous set. You'll have +18 ACC as well, which is meaningless when you're already at cap, but you maximized parry after VIT anyway.

Allagan Battleaxe
Allagan helm
Warrior chest
Warrior arms
Allagan belt
Warrior legs
Allagan feet
Allagan neck
Allagan ears
Hero wrists
Allagan ring
Hero ring

Originally Posted by Eclipsed

The whole melded crafted accessories is now a moot point with the aggro changes. There is absolutely no need for STR now to hold aggro off of anything.

That was never really the point. Melded accessories offer you the highest mitigation, and also offer higher damage output and recovery from attack-based abilities (Bloodbath, Second Wind, Inner Beast) to boot. It would also let you progress more evenly since 3/5 BIS accessories are random drops and only accessible once you have a pretty high gear level. The enmity is there and all, but you never needed it at that gear level in the first place.

**Eclipsed** · 12-19-2013 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by Gamemako

That was never really the point. Melded accessories offer you the highest mitigation, and also offer higher damage output and recovery from attack-based abilities (Bloodbath, Second Wind, Inner Beast) to boot. It would also let you progress more evenly since 3/5 BIS accessories are random drops and only accessible once you have a pretty high gear level. The enmity is there and all, but you never needed it at that gear level in the first place.

I have yet to see this actually proven in practice or theory adequately. And depending on your other gear it is debatable due to the value you must reach in str/dex to reach the next tier where you actually get any benefit at all. Depending on the rest of your armor you might not and it is all wasted.

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