New DF Punishment Timer

[KyteStones]

So 30 minutes now as punishment for leaving an instance. Bad group/failgroup/harassing members (with no vote kick option available, lets say its been used up for the day with its limited use) Griefing/AFK-ing (i know they will be kicked in 10 minutes but there are way around this you all know). And the player is punished for 30 minutes.

I think 15 minutes was bad enough.



Discuss.

[storm]

30 minute punishment for abandoning a group is actually pretty standard in most mmos

[DragonHunterG]

good change.

[Arriverderci]

Ouch.
/10char.

I think it is good that they increased it. I feel like I want it even longer, but I am going to wait until a couple of weeks to set my judgement upon it.

Why longer? I felt 15 was fine, 30 is ok...You still have to wait ages for a party anyways with DF.
You will always get bad players but here's hoping people won't jump ship as much anymore.

[Tupsi]

Ouch.
/10char.


Why longer? I felt 15 was fine, 30 is ok...You still have to wait ages for a party anyways with DF.
You will always get bad players but here's hoping people won't jump ship as much anymore.

Well, those who ragequit over someone that just happens to be new in an instance can't be punished enough, I'd say ban em from the DF if I had my way lol, but sadly I do not. "Terrible groups" are usually terrible because of the "oh so superior" player is more of a hindrance than the people they claim to be terrible.

Only time I see terrible groups are people who don't even try, aka stand in front of Garuda with the tank, or people who are clearly trolling, aka going into WP/AK as a base class.

[Doo]

So you're basically stuck in a terrible group with no one willing to take the 30 minute hit till 2.15 where the party can vote to give up. How many players need to approve of this vote to give up? How many yes vote will be needed? What if the group is terrible and there's not enough votes?

[KikInperi]

till 2.15 where the party can vote to give up. How many players need to approve of this vote to give up? How many yes vote will be needed? What if the group is terrible and there's not enough votes?

LMAO /char

[Positron]

So you're basically stuck in a terrible group with no one willing to take the 30 minute hit till 2.15 where the party can vote to give up. How many players need to approve of this vote to give up? How many yes vote will be needed? What if the group is terrible and there's not enough votes?

Well, I guess you're just stuck there... if only there were a member in the group who weren't terrible to teach the group how to do better!

[Doo]

Well, I guess you're just stuck there... if only there were a member in the group who weren't terrible to teach the group how to do better!

You can teach all you want but you can't play for them. All that teaching won't make them able to dodge landslide and plumes. Heck I even made a macro for when plumes are about to go off. You'll be lucky if the player doesn't give you an attitude for trying to help them most of the time.

Maybe you like to babysit players, carry them, and take hours of your time trying to teach them simple mechanics but not everyone enjoys that. I enjoy it to a certain point but by the time the guy gets hit by like the 10th landslide, it wears on you.

I think a lot of players here like saying things that sound nice and all but in reality they wouldn't be able to take it themselves.

[Amyas]

Well, I guess you're just stuck there... if only there were a member in the group who weren't terrible to teach the group how to do better!

Trust me, most bad players using DF at 50 don't want to be 'taught'. I've been cussed at enough by baddies (looking at you blackmages that only cast bliz 3) when I give hints or just say the correct rotation, then you have the silent sallies that continue being bad and never say a word. I normally don't leave unless there is an emergency, but I've had my times where a group would wipe over and over at a boss (line. line. LINE. HEALER YOU HAVE A PURPLE LINE ON YOU!!!! *fifthwipe*) and I'd just break and leave. (granted this hasn't happened in a while, save for occasional groups in progress stuck at either the wall or last boss in AK)

30 min lockout hurts, but hey, I guess if I get a crappy or abusive group I can always alt-tab and watch youtube or w/e until someone else rage quits first...