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  1. #61
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    Aruseth's Avatar
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    Ascendant Varracus
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    Time invested does not equal difficulty, its just time invested. It will not be hard to get a free company house, but the way they are priced on anything but the cheapest servers will soak up more time than pretty much anything I have seen in any other MMO.
    Time invested means you have something to play for. If your playing an Mmo you don't have much else to do anyway. And if you do, then choose what you want to do more. every final fantasy game since the dawn of time has always been prized on hours of gameplay. console and PC alike.
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  2. #62
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    Dannythm's Avatar
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    Kenshiro Joestar
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Misleading us is Yoshi's specialty, ever since that mock up screenshot of ARR using 1.23 skills and implied combat system.

    Edit: Even before that, ever since the first players poll.
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    Last edited by Dannythm; 12-17-2013 at 03:34 AM.

  3. #63
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    Haseo Lionheart
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    Gungnir
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    Lancer Lv 50
    No matter how sugar coat it is still misleading, and yes people are gonna be mad about it. Hell legacy are gonna be furious. Have every right to be. True legacy players have stuck by through everything. The terrible launch, crappy lag, constant changes, etc etc. So why is it seem to get shaft at every turn. Many of us have been forced to abandoned our characters just to play with friends. I can also say all these people saying they got XXmil gil without buying and only doing so and so are full of it. My main played since day one 1.0. I was lucky be in good ls at start didn't spend a lot of gil, didn't do any exploits i ended game with 32mil at server shutdown and came back to a mere fraction of that. new character hell can spend a day farming and be lucky to hit 20k for a FULL day at prices now. True FF fans aren't against work, hell some of us took more than a year to level first job. We do however ask that it be reasonable and enjoyable.
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  4. #64
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    WintersMoondancer's Avatar
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    Sorrow Nightwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayokane View Post
    but can you prove to me, without any doubt, that the prices of a plot of land were set, as they are now, at the moment of Yoshi's statement of housing prices?
    Can you prove without any doubt that they weren't?

    Players have the right to feel a bit mislead. Yoshi knew what question was really being asked even if the exact wording wasn't used in asking. Playing "dumb" to hide information from players at that time was just a way to sidestep the upcoming anger from players around the world, not just NA players. Yoshi is not stupid, far from it. But he needs to choose which questions he answers in a way to postpone potential backlash from the community.
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  5. #65
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    Kailea Nagisa
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    people are way to quick to complain and light up torches......

    Prices are high FOR NOW, it will remove lots of gil from the game from the ones that want it right now. Then it will be lowered and it will be affordable for most FCs. After all that we will get personal housing, and the rest of us can get a house. Same goes for many of these other changes people are getting all pissy over. A lot of changes like this have to be at least tried out, if they don't work, then they are changed.
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  6. #66
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    Ricky's Avatar
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    Azran Hayat
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Big issue is you can't just upgrade size at a later time
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  7. #67
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    Kayokane's Avatar
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    Aluena Mahri
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WintersMoondancer View Post
    Can you prove without any doubt that they weren't?
    Nope :3 though, I am absolutely certain that they were still conceptualizing the prices,maybe it's a combination of fan-boyism and optimism, or it may be that I'm studying to be a game developer and understand the things are never really 'final' in a video game until it goes gold, they may have had the information finalized they may not have, to cry foul and declare it misleading would mean you have proof thereof. I'm honestly just sick of people criminalizing others because things that were never actually the main topic of conversation are not the way they pictured them to be, and have no way of actually proving that there was foul play involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by WintersMoondancer View Post
    Players have the right to feel a bit mislead...
    That is true.
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    ~Mew

    ~~Thank You Niqo'te

  8. #68
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    Lamentations Finito
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 30
    [QUOTE=OldFFXIPlayer;1673781]I am what you would call an "older" player. I'm not sure what the median age is but I am fairly certain I am quite a bit above it. I played FFXI for 5 years; finally quit out of frustration, (killing the same NM over 50 times and never getting the drop is just stupid.) It was also frustrating because it became too much like real life; players that were the "haves" and players that were the "have nots." I work for a living and really only get to play on weekends, I'm pretty sure I will be shut out of this housing that is planned for FFXIV.

    I am also an older player, played ffxi for 8+ years, these prices and the grind associated with them only contradict the casual leveling gamestyle SE seems to want to carry in ffxiv. This will strip subs from SE's game, the prices are simple fantasy and will simply promote more RMT sales.
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  9. #69
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    Maki Maki'
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    Faerie
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    Weaver Lv 90
    The past tense of "to mislead" is "misled".
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 100
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QQe1rfm2dQ

    Should you ever wonder who Yoshi P looks up to, now you know.
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