[petition] no more discrimination between legacy and new player

[Hanabira]

My only issue with this is that there is a hard minimum of 50%. While i'll agree legacy servers have far more gil, buying these high priced houses will suck all of that out of the system. Then when all of the servers have around an equal amount of gil, our houses will STILL cost 10 times as much as a lower priced one because of the lower cap. There should be no hard minimum and if the purpose of this is to balance the economies of all servers, then make the price truly relative to the economy.

[Misaki]

I started 2.0 with like 100k lol & most of my friends I play with got around 200-800k...not even CLOSE to what we need for a decent house.

It will be so fckn hard to save gil right now for housing...you can't even sell stuff cuz no one will buy.
Guess why. They also save gil for housing ~~~~

[amnie]

every legacy player who thinks they are the ones being 'shafted' is free to transfer 2€ to my bank account every once so they can feel just as entitled paying the save price as I do, a non-legacy. herp-a-derp.

[darkstarpoet1]

every legacy player who thinks they are the ones being 'shafted' is free to transfer 2€ to my bank account every once so they can feel just as entitled paying the save price as I do, a non-legacy. herp-a-derp.

and every person that feels like you do are welcome to go back in time and earn legacy just like we did by paying to play a game you ran from. we supported the company when people that act like they have always been fans had already turned their backs on them.

[amnie]

and every person that feels like you do are welcome to go back in time and earn legacy just like we did by paying to play a game you ran from. we supported the company when people that act like they have always been fans had already turned their backs on them.

I wasn't being serious.

not that it's any of your business, but I have the 1.0 CE (and the ARR CE, not that it matters)
I was in the 1.0 beta so I knew I what I was getting into. I paid a subscription until april/may 2012. I didn't pay a subscription during the last three months because I had other obligations.

there are a LOT of legacy players who ONLY paid the 45 dollar so they could get legacy status, never even bought the freaking game. you have nothing on me so don't even try.

(I am actually not bitter about this at all, I just think people need to get a grip when they honestly think they deserve the legacy status more than everyone else who paid for 1.0)

You're confusing Legacy players with Legacy Status. Legacy (1.0) players pay the same amount, Legacy Status (players who paid SE the money so they could have a bit of spare cash to make 2.0, keeping Yoshi in a job) are the only ones who get lower sub fee.

I'm not 'confusing' anything. I am a 1.0 player and as you can see by my main, I play on a legacy server.

[darkstarpoet1]

I wasn't being serious.

pretty aggressive to not be serious.

not that it's any of your business, but I have the 1.0 CE (and the ARR CE, not that it matters)
I was in the 1.0 beta so I knew I what I was getting into. I paid a subscription until april/may 2012. I didn't pay a subscription during the last three months because I had other obligations.

i don't blame anyone that didn't stick through the game from release until it shut down. i did because i liked the game. some parts i liked more on release and some parts i enjoyed much more right before it shut down. there's even a very few things i like now more than at anytime during 1.0.

there are a LOT of legacy players who ONLY paid the 45 dollar so they could get legacy status, never even bought the freaking game. you have nothing on me so don't even try.

i'm not one of those. i stuck with the game from beta until after the servers went down during the non save period. i do agree with you that a bunch of people did pay and support the game during the pay period without touching the game just for the head start in arr they would get though.

(I am actually not bitter about this at all, I just think people need to get a grip when they honestly think they deserve the legacy status more than everyone else who paid for 1.0)

this thread isn't about who deserves legacy status or not. this thread is about 2 sets of people. just imagine you start the game the exact same time as someone else does and you have to put in 10x more effort than they do for the exact same thing. if 2 people picked up arr when it released and started a new char one person gets screwed because they earn the same gil from quests and all, but they need to make 10x the gil to get the same thing as someone else just because of what server they started on.

I'm not 'confusing' anything. I am a 1.0 player and as you can see by my main, I play on a legacy server.

being a 1.0 player or not isn't the point. the point is the people on the legacy servers feel like they are getting slapped in the face because of the huge difference in what they are forced to pay to access the same thing.

if i go out and farm that 20k from battle yoshi states you can earn a day it will take me 14,181 days to get enough gil for the land for a large piece of land, but another person can go out and farm for 909 days by themselves for the large plot of land. looking at that from a new player perspective that joined a legacy server they are getting screwed as they had nothing from 1.0. even the people that played in 1.0 only have 10% of what they had before and the economy is garbage now compared to what it was in 1.0.

[madolyn]

and every person that feels like you do are welcome to go back in time and earn legacy just like we did by paying to play a game you ran from. we supported the company when people that act like they have always been fans had already turned their backs on them.

this. so this. please go back and play ffxiv in the original state until now.

[amnie]

this. so this. please go back and play ffxiv in the original state until now.

again, I wasn't being serious. and again, I actually played version 1.0 almost until the 'exodus', so in reality I played it much much longer than most people with legacy status who admittedly ONLY paid the last three months and ONLY to get the headstart for ARR.

I actually really, really enjoyed my time in 1.0

but hey, feel free to hate on ....

[Rosekitten]

Not to say I'm complaining as it was my choice to roll on a legacy server but all of the legacy people I've known so far never had all classes to 50 and had some absurd amount of gil moved from 1.0. Prices flux pretty bad on my server given what day of the week it is and such.

The FC I am in has about 70 or so active members and we've maybe gathered 2million together? Plus with housing prices out now the Gil sellers have gotten worse. I get this is a gold sink but there will still be some absurd gil amount in the system as if any players have great somes of gil they are saving for personal housing or effects.

Not saying it is hard to make gil or anything as I've about 800k without trying and just leveling classes and jobs. But I do remember being told that being on a legacy server wouldn't effect me, that the market would even itself out. The market seems about as stable as it was on any other server if you ask me. The difference? Some people could sell old 1.0 event items..

[amnie]

that's the problem with legacy and legacy status not meaning the same thing. with my first comment I was obviously (at least I thought that would be obvious) talking about legacy status. I AM a 1.0 player. I specifically tried to word both differently for a reason. (every 1.0 player has the icon. at least if they ever played the character or something. I have a legacy character I never played and she doesn't have it - though I think during beta someone mentioned you 'randomly' get it sometime during the main scenario)

ps: you probably should have quoted the whole thing, because 'as you can see by my main' doesn't make much sense if you leave out where I point out that I PLAY ON A LEGACY SERVER