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  1. #11
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    AlexNiculaie's Avatar
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    Alex Niculaie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steady View Post
    You're on a server with more gil. They want a gil sink so they adjusted the numbers based on the amount of gil in the world. Sounds right to me.
    The problem with this mentality is that the gil is tied up in the bigger FC's, not the smaller ones, so it is the smaller guys who are being pushed out. Those mega FC's aren't going to go after the tiny one room housing plots in Shanty Town. This doesn't solve anything.

    We've been working towards this goal for 3 months already, and because the mega member FC's who sell Titan wins have huge amounts of gil, we are forced to farm 7 days a week for 3 to 6 months just to afford a tic tac plot in the slums? That is piss poor logic at its worst. Keep the nice areas, and bigger plots expensive, but why on earth make the introductory, one room home plots unreasonably high?
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  2. #12
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    Lexxuk's Avatar
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    Wildest Thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steady View Post
    You're on a server with more gil. They want a gil sink so they adjusted the numbers based on the amount of gil in the world. Sounds right to me.
    It'd be a gil sink if people were stupid enough to buy at those prices. Now it's nothing more than a disappointment, or are you really expecting people to drop hundreds of millions of gil on something which has no tangible value to themselves? People will pay 100m for an amazing weapon or piece of gear for *themselves*, not sure they would drop 100m gil on land (without house nor furniture).
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  3. #13
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    Seraphita Raziel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    They understate things as a matter of form.
    Clarity is not a priority in their phrasing as it is in English.

    I'm not even here to defend the choice or anything. The idea is that he lied when what he said is quite normal when used in Japanese.
    A little can mean a lot, but in less blunt terms.
    You owe me a little money still.
    It's 13 million yen!
    Sorry, clairty isn't important. LOL!
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  4. #14
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    Dokutoru Gwydion
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie View Post
    The problem with this mentality is that the gil is tied up in the bigger FC's, not the smaller ones, so it is the smaller guys who are being pushed out. Those mega FC's aren't going to go after the tiny one room housing plots in Shanty Town. This doesn't solve anything.

    We've been working towards this goal for 3 months already, and because the mega member FC's who sell Titan wins have huge amounts of gil, we are forced to farm 7 days a week for 3 to 6 months just to afford a tic tac plot in the slums? That is piss poor logic at its worst. Keep the nice areas, and bigger plots expensive, but why on earth make the introductory, one room home plots unreasonably high?
    Dang you're right I totally forgot about the Titan wins. That was pretty much THE only way to make a ton of money. The market is terrible period. If selling fight wins is how you're going to make money in this game, its just not going to happen.
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  5. #15
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    Allyrion's Avatar
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphita View Post
    You owe me a little money still.
    It's 13 million yen!
    Sorry, clairty isn't important. LOL!
    I have literally seen cases like this.
    Sorry if culture clash is lost upon you.

    EDIT:
    Phrasing generally understates anything that may be taken negatively and overstates anything positive (unless it's about yourself, of course).
    It does not matter if the *actual* case is extremely negative, unless they are being angry then they will understate it as a matter of being polite.
    Even if said case is exorbitant, it is considered a matter of being polite which is a higher priority than clarity. This is just a difference in culture.

    That doesn't mean the prices are reasonable, it's just the statement is something you would expect given the context.

    Quote Originally Posted by wirewitch View Post
    No I understand, the language thing is a problem - however - I am sure YoshiP knows the difference between a little of something and a lot of something.

    He said a little, difference, when in fact we're paying more than double.

    'Slightly' is a much more acceptable PR than 'You will be paying more than double'.
    Yes, you're right about PR but I just mean most JP companies speak in a very polite way to their customers.
    That may come across as misleading, but it's not exactly PR fluff either.
    No doubt that understating something that may make your customers upset is better PR, but I can't really seem him saying "you will have to pay a lot more" as it will sound too confrontational.
    The decision is questionable, but there was no other way he would of said it after making said decision.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 12-16-2013 at 11:24 PM.

  6. #16
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    wirewitch's Avatar
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    Mynerva Mcguire
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    I have literally seen cases like this.
    Sorry if culture clash is lost upon you.
    No I understand, the language thing is a problem - however - I am sure YoshiP knows the difference between a little of something and a lot of something.

    He said a little, difference, when in fact we're paying more than double.

    'Slightly' is a much more acceptable PR than 'You will be paying more than double'.
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  7. #17
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    Lafiel Abriel
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    A better gil sink is to have the housing at affordable prices. If the prices are too high, no one will buy the houses and the gil circulating in the economy will remain the same.
    That is because the main idea of housing price is not to act as a gil sink lol. People just like to call it that because that is how they understand anything that uses their gil.
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